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    I have an '87 F&F. That rod along with my Scott F2 glass 3 wt. and 6wt. BIIx are my favorites right now. That's out of about 40 rods.
    I take it that it's staggered ferrule?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mojo View Post
    I have an '87 F&F. That rod along with my Scott F2 glass 3 wt. and 6wt. BIIx are my favorites right now. That's out of about 40 rods.
    I take it that it's staggered ferrule?
    .......yes sir

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    Do you still have this rod? Would Be willing to buy it. My Grandfather gave me this exact rod and was stolen out of my truck a few months back.

  4. #34

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    Quote Originally Posted by axle27 View Post
    That's a good looking rod. Interesting, though. I had one that I just sold. It had a wood reel seat rather than the cork. It was a later model (1997, I think). I wonder when they made the change over. And, mine was uplocking while this one is downlocking.

    I just bought a 8'9" Western series from about that era and it has the cork reel seat, also. Interesting. It's also an uplocking.

    Don't mean to hijack, just observing things.
    Axle, Far&Fine 7'9"/#5 is beloved by many (try a 4.5-weight Gold on it today for a treat) but the 8' 9" Western (I presume the #5 though there was a #7 and 8 too in that length...all good) is one of the best rods Orvis ever built. Just watch out for cracking of the finish where the female ferrule tube meets the blank, it can be indicative of underlying more consequential issues. Those glued on two piece Orvis ferrules were clunky and not so strong though many seem to have survived to this day (remarkably). Not until H2 has Orvis built a series of fly rods to compare to those fine 1980's Westerns.

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    ^ as a user of a 1979 Far and Fine, I'm curious as to the 'treat' of using a 4.5 Gold? Your elaboration could save me some $ trying to find out

    (And assuming you mean a 4 1/2 weight? I didn't know such a thing existed...)
    Thanks-

  6. #36

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    At the time F&F was built, fly line taper diversity was not rampant as today. It was rated to be fished with a WF5F but such lines were straight #5's then. Lighter than many of todays #5 as we have longer tapers and rear tapers and a propensity to build lines heavier than standard. RIO Gold a justifiably popular line with a presentation oriented taper, is really a 1/2 size heavier than standard 5-weights...a 5.5 weight. So, a #4 Gold is 4.5 (no, it will say "4" on the box not the true 4.5-weight) and aged F&F is really quite soft by todays lights and fishes well being "under lined" by a half size. Same is true on early Winston pre-WT's. This is my idea, not Orvis's, and they probably would disagree with me, they often have on other matters too. Don't go out an buy a #4 Gold on my say so but if a friend or the shop has one for you to test cast, give it a go and report your experience.

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    I recently excavated from storage a 1980 era Rodon Boron/Graphite 8'/#6 beautifully built by its designer, Ted Simroe, formerly of Leonard Rod Company. I took it out on a lawn for jollies and, forget it, no way was this rod throwing a 6-weight. I under-lined it a full size with an SA Mastery Trout #5 revealing its smooth, sweet old school character.

    Old rods and new ones too are not necessarily what they say they are. They are what they are when carefully matched with the correct fly line via informed back to back comparisons.

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    Appreciate the added input!


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    Quote Originally Posted by sweetandsalt View Post
    Axle, Far&Fine 7'9"/#5 is beloved by many (try a 4.5-weight Gold on it today for a treat) but the 8' 9" Western (I presume the #5 though there was a #7 and 8 too in that length...all good) is one of the best rods Orvis ever built. Just watch out for cracking of the finish where the female ferrule tube meets the blank, it can be indicative of underlying more consequential issues. Those glued on two piece Orvis ferrules were clunky and not so strong though many seem to have survived to this day (remarkably). Not until H2 has Orvis built a series of fly rods to compare to those fine 1980's Westerns.
    Funny you should say this...I was just about to put this set up on the market. I have it mated with a Pflueger Medalist and a WF7F line. I've caught a trout or two on it...but I really don't need all of the 7wts I have.
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  9. #39

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    I used to fish for shad during the spring run with that Western 8'9"/#7 with an Argentine STH reel and sink tip line but the runs are nothing like they used to be. That rod languishes for me but the 5-weight version was really brilliant.

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    Thx for the sweet rod porn!

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