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Old 08-06-2017, 11:15 AM
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I think we can expect a H3 Covert Edition in the near future...
The blank of the H3 and overall was based off the H2 covert except the logo. So no probably not
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Old 08-06-2017, 12:12 PM
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Looks like they picked up the graphic design from skiing poles. May become a distraction over time imho
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Old 09-12-2017, 12:50 PM
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I have 35 years invested in top water, 4 in fly fishing. I started with a cheap echo rod. I currently have a radian, winston bxiii and an orvis super glass. I went to orvis last month and spent 2 hours with all my poles plus the h3 in both d and f. The h3's are high end rods. They were lighter than my Scott and they threw a bit farther. The flex version reminded me of Winston. However. I felt that there was no reason to get an h3 when I had a radian. Maybe I'm more comfortable with the rod. I did however leave the store with a 4 wt superfine glass. 7'6 It has made every trip to the water a pleasure. Again. I'm no expert. My take. We had bamboo, fiber, graphite and carbon. Technology causes changes. Going back to fiberglass. A game changer. It's laughable. It's nice to have a 7 wt bxiii for streamers, but I'm picking up the glass so much cause casting is such a pleasure. I love the guys at orvis. I'm so greatful that "Kim" in VT pointed me toward the fiberglass. OK. Let the flames begin. Tim
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Old 09-12-2017, 01:24 PM
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Tim,

I don't think anyone is going to flame you. You did a comparison casting test between what you currently have and the new H3's, and you came away liking what you have. Good for you!

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Tim,

I don't think anyone is going to flame you. You did a comparison casting test between what you currently have and the new H3's, and you came away liking what you have. Good for you!

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I think his point was theres no reason for him to get one because it's so comparable to the Radian, and possibly better IMO from casting both personally. If he didn't have that radian he'd possibly might have bought the H3, who knows.

I have casted a lot of rods out there and currently own a lot, the H3, I have the distance model, is way ahead of its time and a joy to cast. I can't wait to get it paired up with a higher end line that really makes it shine, I have been playing around with a few different ones still not settled on one yet because they all feel so different on it thus far.

As for the ones calling it cheap and ugly, I guarantee you the reel seat is far from cheap. The anodized aluminum skeletons are machined in house the same place as the mirage reels, and the carbon insert is way ahead of a burl reel seat as far as durability and weight. Which is another aspect this rod was developed on. SUPER LIGHT, SUPER DURABLE, & HIGH PERFORMANCE. I am sure this rod will do VERY well despite having an "ugly" sticker on it once people get one in hand and really push it to its limits. Its a pure joy to cast for a rod in it's class.
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Old 09-12-2017, 06:34 PM
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I have no issue with carbon reel seats and as far as "good looks" are concerned, I have rods and even friends I love that are not that handsome.

I like your advance comments on H3 D and an curious as to what lines you have sampled on if and what rods in its category you are currently fishing?
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I have no issue with carbon reel seats and as far as "good looks" are concerned, I have rods and even friends I love that are not that handsome.

I like your advance comments on H3 D and an curious as to what lines you have sampled on if and what rods in its category you are currently fishing?
Rods in its class I have fished, the Method and NRX come to mind and I can already tell in the short time I have owned it the H3 D blows them out of the water. I have tried HD hydros lines on it so far in both 4wt and 5wt (rod is a 9' 5wt), SA Amplitude MPX & Anadro taper, and intouch RIO grand so far. I think I am leaning more towards the Rio I want to see how well it does with turning over big dries and double nymph indicator rigs with it on the water I only lawn casted this one. I will say this the 4wt line on this was incredible for being underlined on a ultra fast action rod.
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Old 09-13-2017, 07:32 AM
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Can you tell me what the physical weight of the rod is please? I know it's less relevant than swing weight - I have cast numerous rods in glass, bamboo and graphite of near identical physical weight and length, made of the same fiber that felt worlds apart in hand. I guess based on the H1 and H2 that this rod would be about 21/2 ounces and feel darn light. Glad you like it, I still have high hopes that this new lineup will have a few winners in it.

I think if I ever owned one that I would have to have the overt logo on the blank wrapped over in a charcoal or similar colored varnished silk to subdue the appearance though.
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Rods in its class I have fished, the Method and NRX come to mind and I can already tell in the short time I have owned it the H3 D blows them out of the water. I have tried HD hydros lines on it so far in both 4wt and 5wt (rod is a 9' 5wt), SA Amplitude MPX & Anadro taper, and intouch RIO grand so far. I think I am leaning more towards the Rio I want to see how well it does with turning over big dries and double nymph indicator rigs with it on the water I only lawn casted this one. I will say this the 4wt line on this was incredible for being underlined on a ultra fast action rod.
Youve only compared the Sage Method & Loomis NRX and this Orvis 3D blows them out the water?Both those rods mentioned are far from the best from each respective company.I doubt the Orvis 3D is an ultra fast stiff rod like the specialised Method anyway.The NRX in the 5 is a clunker and the worst top of the line 5wt ive ever cast.Not much of a comparison.

If you comparing a 4wt Orvis 3D,compare it with the Sage One 486,im sure the sage will blow it out the water.
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Rods in its class I have fished, the Method and NRX come to mind and I can already tell in the short time I have owned it the H3 D blows them out of the water. I have tried HD hydros lines on it so far in both 4wt and 5wt (rod is a 9' 5wt), SA Amplitude MPX & Anadro taper, and intouch RIO grand so far. I think I am leaning more towards the Rio I want to see how well it does with turning over big dries and double nymph indicator rigs with it on the water I only lawn casted this one. I will say this the 4wt line on this was incredible for being underlined on a ultra fast action rod.
Thanks euro, If you have read any of my fly line posts for trout fishing you know in how low regard I view over-lining, particular on high quality crisp actioned dry fly rods. MPX though a clunky, hinging nymphing intended line is only a 1/2 size over but Grand is 1.1 heavy and Anadro I think is 1.5 overweight. I suspect since you have been fishing unique Method and remarkable NRX that you did not have H2-tip 9'/#5. In our kit I have a Method #6 and NRX #5 both rigged with RIO IT Gold and my wife's H2-tip #5 set up with Orvis's 'Easy Mend' a true to weight long head sleeper in their offerings that I recommend you try if you are an Orvis man. H2's virtue for her is its excellent light weight but she is not under any illusion about its performance capabilities in comparison to brilliant but a little heavy NRX. Even a rod as quick and potent as Method does not like over-lining by more than Golds .4 extra weight in my hands and Orvis has not even dreamt of a rod with that kind of power since their mid 1980's Boron-Graphite's.

You mentioned that H3 D cast a #4 well, presumably at some distance, and this is a good indicator that it wants a more true to weight #5 line. Presuming it is an improved, faster end of medium fast progressive taper building upon H2-tips promise, I would recommend trying RIO Gold at the heavy end and SA Expert Distance (or other Ultimate Trout type tapers), Cortland Omni-Verse or Orvis's own Easy Mend.

I look forward to casting new H3 and if I love it, I will live with the white graphics, no problem.

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The NRX in the 5 is a clunker and the worst top of the line 5wt ive ever cast.Not much of a comparison.
No doubt Method is specialized but a benchmark rod none-the-less, nothing does what it does better. NRX#5 is clunky? Perhaps you mean it is a slight bit heavier than comparative rods. The 5-weight was the first NRX I tried upon introduction and I did not like it but fell in love with the #'s 4 and 8. After a few seasons, on the advice of Forum member and friend, EasternCaster (a fabulous IFF Master Caster and one of the best I know), I re-tested it and I don't believe it changed but I must have. Now my traveling kit of front line 5-weights includes technically incomparable 9'/#5 ONE, intuitive all-round versatile and fun SKY, my new favorite medium sized river specialist 8 1/2'/#5 X, a true delight. But when on bigger rivers, particularly if there is wind (and in Montana when isn't there) my most frequently employed 9'/#5 is NRX. No other rod has as seamless and controllable taper transitions or equivalent potency in every inch of the rod. Is my NRX a pretty rod?, not really. For one thing it is painted everyrod green unlike my hipper earlier models in natural graphite grey with opaque cerulean blue wraps that pronounce "NRX" from a distance and it has that Loomis fish skeleton logo which has never spoken to me. The machined reel seat hardware is a little chunky but does not loosen nor jam. At its heart NRX embodies the special creative taper design work of the great Steve Rajeff and their in lies its truly terrific casting/fishing character.
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