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    hi,

    just curious what your opinion is when shopping for a new rod:

    • do you find fly rods generally too expensive?
    • is location of the manufacturer important to you?
    • would you try a new brand of rod, and if so, what would compel you to try a new brand?
    • would you purchase a rod online?
    • what is your number one complaint about fly rods in your experience?


    I am thinking of buying a new rod, and generally find the prices very high, so am considering buying one online, maybe a brand I've never heard of. any info is appreciated!
    I am also interested long term in getting into rod building...
    do you feel there are a shortage of brand choices, or is the market flooded?
    thanks for any info guys!

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    Default Re: what are your priorities when buying a rod?

    Disclaimer: I have been working in the FF industry since 2005 and specialty sports retail since 1991, so my opinions are biased.

    Quote Originally Posted by coldbrook View Post
    do you find fly rods generally too expensive?
    No

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    is location of the manufacturer important to you?
    Somewhat

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    would you try a new brand of rod, and if so, what would compel you to try a new brand?
    Yes. Newer technology.

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    would you purchase a rod online?
    Never

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    what is your number one complaint about fly rods in your experience?
    One size does not fit all.

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    do you feel there are a shortage of brand choices, or is the market flooded?
    No.

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    thanks for any info guys!
    You are very welcome.

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    Default Re: what are your priorities when buying a rod?

    Good luck with your choices...

    Quote Originally Posted by coldbrook View Post

    • do you find fly rods generally too expensive?
      yep
    • is location of the manufacturer important to you?
      I buy American when it makes sense
    • would you try a new brand of rod, and if so, what would compel you to try a new brand?
      Reviews, reputation. I'd cast a rod before I bought it.
    • would you purchase a rod online?
      New, probably not....used, absolutely
    • what is your number one complaint about fly rods in your experience?
      breakage is a pain. Buy a rod with a warranty...


    I am thinking of buying a new rod, and generally find the prices very high, so am considering buying one online, maybe a brand I've never heard of. any info is appreciated!
    I am also interested long term in getting into rod building...
    do you feel there are a shortage of brand choices, or is the market flooded?
    thanks for any info guys!

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    I haven't bought a "factory" rod in about 15 years and even then I only looked at close-outs, both on-line and in shops. If a rod wasn't at least 40% off retail, I wouldn't even consider it.
    Even for my home rolled rods, I look for discounted blanks and components.

    At this point, the only rods I lust for are vintage collectibles.

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    My greatest complaint about fly rods is the warranty system
    It's a license to steal for both the rod manufactures and those who choose to abuse their gear, knowing that it will be replaced when it breaks.

    Scrap the warranty system and it would drop the price of rods 30-40%
    Then practice some self responsibly.
    If you bust your rod.... fix it.
    If you need to buy another, well you probably were going to anyway but without the jacked-up warranty prices, you can afford it.
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    Default Re: what are your priorities when buying a rod?

    1. do you find fly rods generally too expensive? yes, very!

    2. is location of the manufacturer important to you? yes, prefer USA

    3.would you try a new brand of rod, and if so, what would compel you to try a new brand? yes once I can hold it and look at it or if recommended by a trusted person.

    4. would you purchase a rod online? yes, many so far

    5. what is your number one complaint about fly rods in your experience? The expense
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    thanks for the replies everyone. I personally find rods very highly priced, and I wonder what the markup is on a typical Sage rod for example.

    I have also heard rumours about some of the bigger american brands now building their rods overseas, as the quality is the same with reduced costs. Anyone hear this?

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    Winston and St. Croix are the only US manufactureres that have flown the coop with some models. The cheaper winstons and St Croixs are made overseas...or over the Rio Grand. All sages scotts and T&T are still made in the US as far as I know.

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    Do you find fly rods generally too expensive?
    Yes, But I still try to buy the best I can afford.

    Is location of the manufacturer important to you?
    Not really, But made in the USA means a lot to me.

    Would you try a new brand of rod, and if so, what would compel you to try a new brand?
    Certainly, If it is made of newer materials or technologies.

    Would you purchase a rod online?
    Sure, but only if there is positive conversation or comments for it. Like what you might read in this forum.

    What is your number one complaint about fly rods in your experience?
    The expense, it bothers me not knowing what it will "feel" like on the water before I buy it.
    There never seems to be enough time to do the things you want to do once you find them.
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    I usually build my own rods. I find that the quality of cork and some of the components are lacking quality on many factory rods.
    I have been fortunate to have built on different blanks and have thrown different factory rods. The USA made rods and blanks are consistant and do hold value better. However, I do find that you can get good blanks made from places other than the USA. That being said, my personal preference is to build on blanks made in the USA. And,there more blank builders in the USA than just the factory rod companies.
    When I buy fly fishing products, I always try to do business with a local vendor first.
    Lastly, if you own a rod you like there is little reason to purchase a newer more expensive model.
    Last edited by hardhat; 03-04-2011 at 07:49 PM.

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    • do you find fly rods generally too expensive?
    Gripe Alert: Not when I had a good paying job. I wonder if the geniuses who decided Americans don't need job will ever realize their employees were also their consumers.
    • is location of the manufacturer important to you?
    It was and still is for the most part. I try to buy domestically made products but it's a losing battle.
    • would you try a new brand of rod, and if so, what would compel you to try a new brand?
    A brand I used to... not care for almost has me pulling the trigger on one of their new series of rods. It seems to have what I want and a price I can handle.

    - would you purchase a rod online?


    Never. I treasure the few fly shops we have left.
    • what is your number one complaint about fly rods in your experience?
    They keep coming out with better and better technology! From what I've experienced some of the changes in fly rods have been incredible.
    Who would have thought they would get so lightweight yet powerful, that 4 piece rods would feel the same as two piece and that rod guides would last longer than the owner! All of these changes kept me a good customer.

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