Sage DART 7 ½’/#4 & Ignitor 9’/#5

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There was a heap of snow pack in the mountains of Idaho and Montana this past winter. Nevertheless, I headed west on June 11th so as not to miss the early season mayfly hatches. Anyone who fished the northern Rocky watersheds this spring experienced the same plethora of raging high and off color flows of many a great river. The Missouri River at Craig, MT was at 17,500 in mid-June; I like to fish it at around 4,000 CFS. I never made it down there this season for the first time since the 1980’s. Snow melt is a given but additionally we were caught up in a changeable weather pattern of massive thunderstorms pelting us with prodigious rain fall, hail stones like marbles and more snow yet in the high country through June. Pleasant enough temperature during the day but into the upper 30’s at night had me zipping up my sleeping bag all the way. Our great and spacious tent did survive the precipitation and big winds with aplomb and its screened in vestibule was invaluable as the wet environment spawned exceptional hatches of mosquitoes; far more impressive than the more sparse and late emergences of PMDs.
Spring fed rivers like the legendary Henry’s Fork and some smaller creeks were largely impervious to the accelerating snow melt so such habitats in our repertoire received emphasis in our movable tent camp angling decisions. I often tend to gravitate to some larger rivers but this year was the reverse as smaller streams where often in far better condition to cast a dry fly upon.

A fly fisher needs all the good luck he can muster and as such I had the great fortune to receive from the creative folks at Sage two advance field test examples of rods to be introduced today, July 11th, at the Orlando, FL, IFTD Show. A brand new series of six rods named DART are 7 ½’/#’s 0 - 4-weight plus a 6 1/2’/#3. My sample is cobbled up with an unsanded graphite grey blank with black wraps, a final taper but far from the finished cosmetics which will be a shade of green. The now ubiquitous and ergonomically excellent blunt Wells grip featured on contemporary Sage trout rods is present and this blank’s butt is slenderer than a pencil. Unusually, these relatively short rods are all built in a three-piece configuration. This series of small stream specialty rods is unique in more than one way among Sage offerings; it is designed by Sage rod design team member, intelligent and enthusiastic, Peter Knox, with the blessings of head designer, Jerry Siem. Based on my experience with DART, Peter has a bright future ahead of him from which we fly fishers will be the beneficiaries.
DART departs from recent Sage rods like X in that its taper is more progressive; light and responsive in the tip section, flexing nicely into the mid taper and finally yielding to Sage’s signature reserve power in the lower butt to support all that bends above it. It is not deeply full flexing like Circa was, nor a fast continuum of changing flexural profile like excellent 8 ½’/#’s 4 and 5 X but a quick recovering medium fast taper optimal for short to medium accurate and delicate presentations in small stream environments. I don’t believe I landed a trout larger than about 17” with DART but it has the goods to handle such fish and larger while also the finesse making smaller fish feel that big. This new series puts Sage performance into the hands of small habitat specialists like larger freshwater and saltwater anglers have raved about for decades.

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Well, I may have fished more intimate streams than usual benefiting from DART and my smaller river favorite 8 ½’/#5 X but the Henry’s Fork, Upper Big Hole and Beaverhead where clear enough and wadeable in areas too. I mentioned the stormy and windy conditions that were too prevalent so a 5-weight that laughs at wind was called for as well. DART has been held to a high level of secrecy but it has been rumored for months that super high performance Method was to be replaced with a Konnetic HD replacement series. These rich maroon with red thread wrap rods are called “Ignitor”. This newest in the Sage heritage of specialty performance rods designed for when each cast counts began with TCR, Technical Casting Rod. I caught my best permit on a TCR#9 in Belize. Then came lighter and perhaps smoother and more forgiving TCX. It is hard to say without side-by-side comparative analysis but a TCX 9’/#7 I fished wading skinny flats in the southern Bahamas is, in my memory, the preeminent flats 7-weight ever. I fish a 6-weight Method, the third generation of this lineage as a drift boat dry fly rod. Cradling “Big Red” when perched in the bow of a drift boat, I see a good bulge in the shadows of an overhanging alder 75’ in front of our drift and somehow my fly is there…almost as if by telepathy. Method might not be the rod for all occasions but when a max line speed, tight, straight loop is called upon at distance, nothing else comes close.

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And now, finally, Ignitor, in a 9’/#5 configuration. This is a fast and powerful rod; there is nothing medium about it. Sure there is some degree of modulation in the tip section as there is in Method too but there is nothing one could describe as “softness” in the tip. Nor should there be as Ignitor is about potent precision and zero counter-flex. Line accelerates off this tip with a mission to go exactly where the caster pointed. To be clear, I fished Ignitor as a big river dry fly instrument. Its precise communication with it RIO Gold line, which after some switching about I also fished on DART and X as well, facilitated sensitive slip-striking including some larger trout without a single busted tippet to fly Trileen Knot or 5X tippet 6 or 7 turn Blood Knot…4X when fishing Drake patterns. Ignitor is a little quicker but lighter in touch than Method. Montana’s Official State Rod is the 9’/#5 and Ignitor was the only such rod I fished for my month long camping/fishing trip. My fishing partner did the same sporting his also great 9’/#5 ONE and I took advantage of its presence to switch with him now and then for perspective. ONE is plenty capable in its own right but a lively sensitive thing in the shadow of this ultimate power house. Wind? What wind? Only a bend in my 5’ tippet revealed it was blowing hard. Fishing an Ignitor in a 5-weight makes me seriously interested in fishing it in an 8-weight on a bonefish flat.

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Sage is surely on a roll with a synthesis of sophisticated material science, elite blank fabrication craftsmanship and cutting edge creative design. I have enjoyed the opportunity to have my angling benefit from their newest superb fly rods and once we all get to test cast and experience their benefits, many will understand why.


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Thanks S&S for the report on my old stomping grounds as well as the new Sage rods.

With the high water on some of your regular stops I was curious whether you got a chance to fish the spring creek that we had corresponded abut earlier in the year. If so I hope it wasn’t a disappointment.

I remember some years in Idaho when the runoff was so extreme that most streams were unfishable. And when those backwaters start receding some the skeeters get bigger and meaner than ever.

Don
 

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The new Igniter and Dart are up on Sage's website. With one exception, the Darts are all 7'6", ranging from 0 to 4 weight. The exception is a 366. I think 7'6" is a nice length for a lightweight, small stream graphite rod. The 6'6" is perhaps better suited for glass (see new Scott F). Which reminds me, Scott's website has been updated, too.

From the photos on Sage's website, it looks like they have improved their reel seats a bit, though they are still not up to the standards Sage set when Struble was their supplier, and I would not even say they are yet on par with the TXL-F/One/TCX/Circa seats.

I also note that the new Darts are all 3-piece, which puts them back real close to the original TXL configuration. And I might have one of those for sale.;)
 

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With one exception, the Darts are all 7'6", ranging from 0 to 4 weight. The exception is a 366. I think 7'6" is a nice length for a lightweight, small stream graphite rod. The 6'6" is perhaps better suited for glass (see new Scott F).
The 366-3 is the model I most want to try. I almost expect to find that you are right and that fiberglass is really what I want. The sensation of 1 11/16 oz paired with a click reel is something I really want to experience though. Still, its casting properties in close are what will be most important. It will take me a little while to pull the scratch together anyway, so I hope to have a chance to test both this and the F Series before making a purchase. Either way, I'm happy that this year, some of the big dawgs have invested in putting out high end, no compromise products for this niche market. I can't imagine that they'll be huge sellers here (in fact, a Sage rep told me that Japan was probably the biggest market for the TXL-F and Little One), but I think a few of us small stream enthusiasts will be happy with their efforts.
 

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The 366-3 is the model I most want to try. I almost expect to find that you are right and that fiberglass is really what I want. The sensation of 1 11/16 oz paired with a click reel is something I really want to experience though. Still, its casting properties in close are what will be most important. It will take me a little while to pull the scratch together anyway, so I hope to have a chance to test both this and the F Series before making a purchase. Either way, I'm happy that this year, some of the big dawgs have invested in putting out high end, no compromise products for this niche market. I can't imagine that they'll be huge sellers here (in fact, a Sage rep told me that Japan was probably the biggest market for the TXL-F and Little One), but I think a few of us small stream enthusiasts will be happy with their efforts.
I love small stream stuff, and it is the type of fishing I get to do most. The new Scott F Series might be kind of neat. And there are indeed some new Redington Butersticks out, to, on their website. Fenwick also makes a 6'6" glass rod that sells pretty well around here, though I have no experience with it.

I don't know if you build rods, but Epic just released a 370 4-piece glass rod, and they have it in a kit, too. I'm building an Epic 476 right now, and can't wait to test it out. The Epics are supposed to be killer glass rods.

By the way, where is Clare?
 

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I love small stream stuff, and it is the type of fishing I get to do most. The new Scott F Series might be kind of neat. And there are indeed some new Redington Butersticks out, to, on their website. Fenwick also makes a 6'6" glass rod that sells pretty well around here, though I have no experience with it.

I don't know if you build rods, but Epic just released a 370 4-piece glass rod, and they have it in a kit, too. I'm building an Epic 476 right now, and can't wait to test it out. The Epics are supposed to be killer glass rods.

By the way, where is Clare?
I actually did have an older model Butterstick (7'6" #4), which was a fun little rod, with certainly a unique feel compared everything else in my quiver. Once I picked up my Circa though, the Butterstick just stayed in its case. It just felt so tip heavy an sluggish by comparison. The Circa had a soft action, but still felt so light and crisp. At 7'9" it is still a little clumsy in places though, so I've been on the lookout for something about a foot shorter with the same wow factor. I am interested in both the F Series and Epic (I actually looked them up after one of your posts the other day), but so far, light, crisp graphite is what does it for me.


As to your question, if you look at a map of Michigan and try to place your finger in as close to the middle of the mitten as you can place it, that's Clare. And the good thing about being in the middle of a peninsula is you're never more than a couple of hours from anywhere and there is lots of water to explore. Lots of it is pretty tight too. I do dream about fishing out west, but would never want to live anywhere different than where I'm at.
 

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I actually did have an older model Butterstick (7'6" #4), which was a fun little rod, with certainly a unique feel compared everything else in my quiver. Once I picked up my Circa though, the Butterstick just stayed in its case. It just felt so tip heavy an sluggish by comparison. The Circa had a soft action, but still felt so light and crisp. At 7'9" it is still a little clumsy in places though, so I've been on the lookout for something about a foot shorter with the same wow factor. I am interested in both the F Series and Epic, but so far, light, crisp graphite is what does it for me.


As to your question, if you look at a map of Michigan and try to place your finger in as close to the middle of the mitten as you can place it, that's Clare. And the good thing about being in the middle of a peninsula is your never more than a couple of hours from anywhere and there is lots of water to explore. Lots of it is pretty tight too. I do dream about fishing out west, but would never want to live anywhere different than where I'm at.
Funny, I'm from Dearborn, but live out West because I have a choice. Moved here when I was in high school, and thought I wanted to go back after I graduated, but just a few years of wide open spaces crept into my blood, and now I would never go back. I'm a Western boy...er, middle-ager...now. So Clare is near Mt. Pleasant? My uncle lived there, now lives up in the Traverse City area.

On the Epic, it is supposedly Fastglass. I cast the 480 in their original Fastglass material, and it was pretty crisp. The 476 is even more so, I hear. I have no experience with the 370 Epic, obviously, since it just came out.

I wonder if on the Scott glass rods if the F2 won't be a little crisper than the new F Series, given the S2 glass/E glass (respectively) materials employed. F2s will be on closeout, and they have a 602 and 653 in the F2.

I had a Circa for a while, and sold it. I had the 389, but also had a 386 ZXL, and kept the latter. I still miss that Circa. One of the few rods I have sold that I have had second thoughts about.
 

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Great report, S&S! Wish the weather and streams were better for you all on that annual trip of yours.

I just got off the Sage site and the Dart looks like a winner. For Sage fans who love small stream fishing, this rod will be a welcomed sight...finally some short sticks from Sage built for small streams. That 366 model would be great in some brushy places I happen to wade into from time to time...
 

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hi s+s,


thanks a lot for your detailed report.

it´s funny to hear your similiar impression about the tip stiffness like from an renowned european caster.

he also told me his Impression that the igniter may be quicker in action but also a little "beefed down"

in power compared to the method.maybe the same as from one >>>>>>>>>> X.

whats your Impression?


best regards


thomas
 

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great question from Thomas, aslo curious on igniter vs method. Is it time to grab method yet available :)
 

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It is interesting to note that Sage now offers 3 options in a 376--X, Dart, and Pulse, at price points $899, $700, and $450, respectively. Both the Dart and X are made of Konnetic HD materials. Of course, they are all branded as fast action (Sage? Fast action, you say? No way!!), which is kind of weird to have three 376 rods, all fast action. It would seem like the Mod family would be a natural for a 376. The X in 376 got panned by Telluride Anglers for not being like its stablemates (i.e., not actually all that fast), but that would seem to be an asset in a rod like that. It's great that Sage, who has a reputation for big, fast rods gives us so many options, but then Sage has always offered more models in light rods than anyone else, with entire model lines devoted to small streams.

That the Dart is $700, but made of Konnetic HD is curious. That is a significant price drop from the Little One made only of lowly Konnetic material. The Dart is a 3-piece, which might have something to do with a lower price, but I don't know...Sage has played around with their pricing on the Konnetic rods before. I recall when the Circa went from $699 to $850, and I wonder if the Dart will follow the same path.

I would be interested to compare all three 376 Sage offerings, and throw the 376 Redington CT into the comparison, too. Not that I would need them all, but I can get 6 (!) Redington CTs for the price of an X (or three Redington Hydrogens), maybe even more CTs if you can find them on one of their frequent sales. I question if the high-priced technology is of much benefit in the shorter, lower line weights, but I'd like to find out.:)
 

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I referred to DART as medium fast and progressive. The only X I fish is the 8 1/2'/#5 and it is a faster, steeper taper though it bends in a way precluding a faster fast description...more fast recovering. I am not a small stream aficionado. The places I fished DART are small by my standards but hardly blue liners. Once you small creek enthusiasts get to test cast DART and also new Winston Pure, I look forward to your observations. I did not know the price of DART until today and I'm honestly surprised it is lower than I would have guessed, OK fine. It is a honey of a little rod and I intend to ask them to develop an 8' addition for the more open spring creek and meadow streams I favor.

DART is as specialized for small environments as Ignitor is for big demanding ones. Neither of these rods are targeted at the all round use generalist. Sage tends to be at their best with specialized rods which is just the way I like it; lots of rods in the kit with no compromises designed into any of them.
 

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As an aside; I really enjoy an opportunity to fish a rod that has yet to be reviewed in the commercial media or even described on the makers website. An open clean slate as it was. I get to determine for myself what the values and applications of the new rod are and how to describe it here on our Forum. I work for no company and make zero money doing this but have been at the periphery of the FF industry for decades, in part because of my photography. I have old friends and acquaintances at a number of tackle companies some of whom have been retiring and a new generation of bright young men are emerging in their place. Peter Knox, the design leader on DART is such a man.
 

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Pity all DART version are 3 piece. Some limitation here.
I like the 3 piece configuration in general and in a short rod like DART it makes design sense to not add an extra ferrule shortening the sections further. What limitation might 3 pieces have? It fits in the same size travel tube as 9' 4 piece rods for example.
 

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S&S, I agree 3 piece have their benefits. But still about 3,5 inch longer and will not fit 9' 4 case, if case same as tube. Mine are, been modified to fit bags/
But, of course, very much depend how and where angler is travelling.
 

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I cast the 480 in their original Fastglass material, and it was pretty crisp. The 476 is even more so, I hear. I have no experience with the 370 Epic, obviously, since it just came out. I wonder if on the Scott glass rods if the F2 won't be a little crisper than the new F Series, given the S2 glass/E glass (respectively) materials employed.
Re the Epics: The 476 and the 480 are quite different. The 480 is more full flexing (some might say slow, or at least slower than the other Epic rods) and I would say probably the most unique of the Epic trout wt offerings. Especially well suited for dries. The 476 is faster and more of an all-arounder, at least if any 7'6" rod can be considered an all-arounder. I'm probably in the minority, but I actually think the 476 is more of a 5 wt. At least a 4.5.

Re the new F: Not sure exactly how I'd define crisp, but compared to the F2s the new F is supposed to be fuller flexing and more stable. So perhaps "slower" but "crisper"?
 

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I referred to DART as medium fast and progressive.
Great review on the new Sage offerings. Reading about the Dart on Sage's website, it kind of reminds me of the TXL-F (not identical of course, Gen 5 vs KHD, 4 pc vs 3 pc, but still similar). Be interesting to know how the Dart compares to that series in terms of feel/action.

I did find it somewhat puzzling that the Sage website refers to the Dart as the "lightest....small water rod ever made" as the Dart 4 wt apparently weighs 9/16 of an ounce more than my 4 wt TXL-F. Perhaps they meant the Dart 663 or perhaps the TXL-F wasn't for "small water." No doubt the Darts are feather light though.
 

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I always caution to beware marketing/advertising hyperbole and go test cast and form you own opinion. DARTs are indeed slender, lightweight little water wands, the lightest ever made...maybe not. Konnetic HD's, in addition to other virtues, are supposed to make for lighter weight but this 9'/#5 Ignitor weighs fractionally more than my pards same size ONE. Well, it has substantially more power on tap too. My HD 8 1/2/#5 X weights a tad less than my Konnetic 8 1/2'/4 ONE.
 
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