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Woolly 10-03-2006 08:13 PM

Fly tying beginner
I’m thinking about trying fly tying. What would your recommendations be on a basic starter equipment list? Also, maybe a brand name for a decent vise. I’d appreciate any help.

dukeofurl 10-03-2006 09:55 PM

Re: Fly tying beginner
First off,
You'll want to start off as cheap as possible, but with enough quality in your tools that you'll at least be able to decide if youd like to keep doing it.
First question
Do you have a fly shop near by?

I am going to give you a list here of materials and tools you'll need to tie wooly buggers, which is the recomended fly to tie when starting out and it requires the least amount of skill to tie. This will be a very concise list not everything you will ever need but only the necessities.

Thompson Vice/ Pedastal Base or C-Clamp
Thread bobbin
Hackle Pliers
Materelli Style Whip Finisher
Sharp Fine Scissors

6/0 Uni-Thread Olive and Black
Strung marabou Olive and Black
medium chenille Olive and Black
Streamer Hooks Size 8/10/12
Whiting Hackle Bugger Packs Olive and Black

This is the cheapest way to decide if you want to tie flies.
Should you decide to continue,
you should only continue by getting materials to tie
on pattern at a time.
don't feel that you need to progress to quickly
start by tying buggers, then nymphs, then progress to dries last as they require the most skill.
Don't move on to another fly pattern until you have tie at least a dozen buggers in both black and olive.
Try to steer clear from start up kits.
they generally give you a bunch of junk that you'll never use and is substandard quality.
I hope that helps.
Keep us abreast of how your tying continues.

Most importantly have fun.

tie one on 10-11-2006 10:51 AM

Re: Fly tying beginner
Getting started into fly tying is an exciting adventure.

But as the previous reply mentioned there is more to fly
tying than just the vise.

I also would suggest that prior to purchasing all the items
required to tie your own that you seek out a local flyshop &
take a fly tying class.

I guess that economics always comes into play in almost
all we want to try our hands at doing.

I believe that spending $50 bucks or so on a class to decide
if you like tying is better than spending $$ on a vise & all the
related equipment.

If you decide that it is something you'd like to do than I might
suggest a Peak Vise. They are a reasonable price for a true
rotary vise. I love mine. I've been tying my own flies for a long
time & it is defintely worth doing. ( my first vise was a cheap one,
non-rotary, that I used until I did some research on the internet &
bought my Peak. ) Check with the Full Creel he sells the Peak &
other brands.

Hope you find tying to be as rewarding as I do. Catching fish on
your own flies is great.

Tie One On

Joni 10-11-2006 02:01 PM

Re: Fly tying beginner
I agree totally on taking a class. Not just to find out if you like it, but the classes I have taken (thus, the way I teach) you learn WHY you do certain things, What the fly represents, thus opening the door to same pattern, different color and material and you now have several flies.
Plus you get to try different Vises, I am partial to Renzetti and Regal (there is sticker shock on some of these vises, so get ready)
I prefer a rotary vise, whether I use it or not, it is there.
There are a lot of starter kits out there that are great, I know the one at Orvis was. You get material for tying basic flies like wooly's, hareears, etc. and TOOLS (which can add up in a hurry), book plus thread and hooks. A good basic starter might be around $150 + (Look at e-bay) and some fly fishing stores will let you up grade the vise when you purchase the kit and minus the price of the vise in the kit.
You will love it on those cold or wet days that you just can't get out.
It is my ZEN in the evening, to relax and tie a few flies before I retire to bed.

One final word, on the bobbers, look for ceramic internals, you will break less thread.

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