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tgoodwater2002 11-16-2007 07:08 PM

what is the difference in?
what is the difference of hard head clear finish and just plain hard head finish?

One is thicker than the other so whats the thickness suppose to do?

BigCliff 11-19-2007 01:48 PM

Re: what is the difference in?
Not totally sure I'm familiar with those products, but in general a hard finish is desired when you want to make the fly tougher. This can come in handy when teeth or rocks can abrade the thread to the point where the fly comes apart.

Frank Whiton 11-19-2007 06:39 PM

Re: what is the difference in?
Hi to All,

There are several different types of head cement made from a water base or a petroleum base. Some are epoxy and some are super glues. The thinner cements penetrate the threads better but can still be very hard. If you are using large threads or bulky materials you may want a thicker cement to fill in the gaps between the threads. Epoxy makes a very hard head and is used a lot in saltwater flies. Here is a link that shows several of the different head cements that are available.

Here is a trick I learned in Alaska for making beautiful heads and they will never come un-done. Make a few wraps with thread and whip finish one or two times. Tye in a piece of acetone thread and finish building up your head to the shape you want and whip finish. Now add a drop of acetone to the head and all the the acetone thread will melt into a hard, shiny finish. You may have to hold the fly in you hand and move it around so the melted head stays right where you want it. I use to make black ants this way.


BigCliff 11-20-2007 12:29 PM

Re: what is the difference in?
Frank just reminded me of another trick: apply superglue to the 2-3" of thread between the fly and the bobbin, wrap that on, and then whip finish. The thread wraps that are soaked with superglue form almost a locked collar, and the whip finish itself will normally get soaked with glue in the process as well.

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