How would you get your Mangrove Muddler deeper?

[thechroniclesofmasi]

Hi All,

So I am new to the sport, but not new to fishing. I have been catching red fish for ever and know that the strike zone is just above the grass.

So I did my research and found some good patterns for reds however they all pretty much float. I am using a combination of leader material from Hard nylon to Fluro (at least the last two tippets), but nothing will make them go under more.

So my question is: What methods are out there to get my flies between 1-3 feet below the surface?

All of the patterns are between #4 - 2/0.

I know about intermediate sinking lines but that will just make the line sink in such shallow water and the fly will be on the surface still.

Splitshot?

Do I need to grease the leader?

Looking forward to hearing from you all!

Thanks

 

[pkins44]

I'm not sure if this helps. But if you tie up your own flies and are looking for the same fly to hit different depths I tie some assorted diameters of lead wire just over the base layer of thread. Then I tie the the fly as I normally would. This is the method I use for fishing my home river that runs from 2-5' deep. I hope this helps and I know this is just one method. But there is always more than one way to skin a cat. Hope this helps.

 

[theboz]

Muddler depth can easily be regulated by tying your pattern on a heavier hook. Light wire hooks high in the column , stainless steel a little deeper. Sparser patterns deeper yet. Experiment!

 

[Liphookedau]

I try to keep clear of Lead Shot as a whack from them can damage Rods & they always seem to moove.
As mentioned using Lead Stripping Or Wire in The Bodies works well,Tungsten Beads are OK & can be used with many Different Lines,Sinking Heads etc.
Brian.

 

[bugslinger]

If the advice the boz gave you doesn't work try some sheet tungsten under the gold body wrap, the sink rate with a saltwater hook should be fast enough to get to the Reds .

 

[Rip Tide]

Tie the head with wool instead of deer hair.

 

[thechroniclesofmasi]

All very good suggestions!

Just what I was afraid of. I am not tying flies as of yet do to my time constraints.

I am posting a good sinking redfish pattern question on the saltwater forum if anyone wants to navigate over there and shoot me some suggestions.

Thanks!