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  1. #21
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    Default Re: Cheap backing or substitute

    Quote Originally Posted by Rip Tide View Post
    Just sayin'

    I haven't done this on everyone of my saltwater reels but it's a good idea to include 25' of 25# mono between the 30# dacron backing and the line.
    The point of this is to have some stretch behind the line to help keep the tippet from popping from fly line drag.

    Once all of your line is out, there's a tremendous amount of pressure on the tippet from the mass of the fly line being dragged through the water. On top of that, many people naturally tighten on the reel's drag when backing is melting off their reel. Wrong !
    Having a stretchy mono section behind the line helps to protect the tippet when there's a full fat fly line being pulled sideways through the water.
    Now That Is Noteworthy!

    You are the first person to mention this in any thing or place I have read about fishing Paul. Because I have had so many instances where either an entire 90' fly line or a 130' Spey line is being torn from the reel and pulled underwater, I've taken stock of this situation on many occasions.

    When faced with this scenario I do whatever it takes to get that line up and to put as much back on the reel as quickly as possible.

    Real good food for thought as are many of your posts here.

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  2. Default Re: Cheap backing or substitute

    any one ever used SPECTRA DYNEEMA?

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    Default Re: Cheap backing or substitute

    What you guys mention the use of "trolling line" are you referring to lead core that some people use on fly reels to add weight to balance the rod?

    Thanks --

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    Default Re: Cheap backing or substitute

    Quote Originally Posted by turbineblade View Post
    What you guys mention the use of "trolling line" are you referring to lead core that some people use on fly reels to add weight to balance the rod?

    Thanks --
    No, this stuff



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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardyreels View Post
    Now That Is Noteworthy!

    You are the first person to mention this in any thing or place I have read about fishing Paul. Because I have had so many instances where either an entire 90' fly line or a 130' Spey line is being torn from the reel and pulled underwater, I've taken stock of this situation on many occasions.

    When faced with this scenario I do whatever it takes to get that line up and to put as much back on the reel as quickly as possible.

    Real good food for thought as are many of your posts here.
    All these little "tips" that you accumulate over the years.
    It never occurs to you that they're not common knowledge
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    Default Re: Cheap backing or substitute

    I don't use mono on my fly reels for 2 reasons. First, mono deteriorates at least to the point where it becomes weaker over time. When I lived in Florida, we replaced the line on our spinning and trolling reels every year. I'm told that sunlight was the greatest enemy of mono, and it may not be as big of an issue when buried beneath flyline. Still, I'd rather not risk it.
    Second, mono takes a "set" over time, and can become very curly. Anyone who has ever had to straighten a leader has seen this. Picture having to straighten 50 yards of mono backing.
    Flyline is expensive, and does not get changed very often. While you see what the flyline looks like, and it's condition, you don't see the backing. Most of us don't get into the backing very often if ever and are unaware of it's condition. It is there for a reason, and had better be reliable when called upon. Stay with a product that you can rely on. It is worth the extra few bucks.
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    Default Re: Cheap backing or substitute

    A large spool of backing seems cheap compared to fly line, why not use it?

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    Default Re: Cheap backing or substitute

    Spend plenty o' money at your local fly shop and in return they put backing on my reels like I'm a charity case. Probably not cheaper in the big picture thought.

    I can't help but think about how much gas gets burned going fishing and the dollars associated, and then think about how horrible it would be to lose that lifetime fish, the one that finally took you down to your backing because you decided it was the link you would budget on. It would take a long time to forgive myself.
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    Lots of good information here. If you wind on your own backing, assuming 30lb. dacron, how much tension should you use? I once had a reel where the backing got buried into itself and would not come off. I may have loaded it on myself and probably didn't keep enough tension on it as I was winding.

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    Default Re: Cheap backing or substitute

    Quote Originally Posted by speycracker View Post
    Lots of good information here. If you wind on your own backing, assuming 30lb. dacron, how much tension should you use? I once had a reel where the backing got buried into itself and would not come off. I may have loaded it on myself and probably didn't keep enough tension on it as I was winding.
    30 lb is a good idea for that reason; it is less likely to get caught under itself because of it's larger diameter. I like to put lots of tension on it; enough so it doesn't feel spongy when you put pressure on it with your finger.
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    Default Re: Cheap backing or substitute

    When we last discussed this someone on this forum mentioned they use "Green Spot" 30lb line. I didn't know what it was but found it online somewhere and got a 500yd spool quite cheap. It's white with green flecks; maybe trolling line? dunno but I like it anyway.
    Yes, that's what I have. Not sure but I believe several companies make it. The spool I bought was from Cortland.

    I've seen it with black spots too.
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