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  1. #11
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    Mar 2013
    Marthasville Mo.
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    Default Re: Barbless Hook Performance - lost fish

    I pinch the barb on all of my barbed hooks but prefer barbless competition hooks as I believe they penetrate deeper and hold better. On some flies, the pinched barbs and excess hackle may prevent full penitration.


  2. #12
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    Apr 2017
    Hudson, Florida

    Default Re: Barbless Hook Performance - lost fish

    I fished barbless for a long time. Don't loose fish.
    If study was done targeting trout. And concerns are trout throwing barbless hooks. How these fished are being played needs addressing.
    Both old & new often are mistaken thinking a trout threw a fly. Not to say it can't happen. But chances are greater that a hook is pulled through and loose from what was holding it. Once called ripping lips in the Poconos.
    Trout are soft flish. Flesh, mouth, lips, soft. Fine wire in a trouts lip Is like a knife in butter. I'm sure any regular trout fisher has at some time caught a set of lips with no fish. This ripping lips was often a topic at an outfitters in Pa. One of the guides refered to some clients as "lip ripper". It was not people new to this, but his older regular clients thag drove him to tirades. Some were funny, maybe why I remember this.

    ........ pc

  3. #13

    Default Re: Barbless Hook Performance - lost fish

    My state changed the wild trout regs in 2018 to barbless only. I haven't noticed losing more fish yet, but I have noticed that most fish get unbuttoned after I net them and the line goes slack. Barbed hooks are definitely harder to remove, and seem to stay hooked to the mouth longer.

  4. #14

    Default Re: Barbless Hook Performance - lost fish

    I bought my first box of barbless hooks 20 years ago, and I've used barbless or pinched the majority of my barbs ever since. I've never noticed any significant problem with losing fish because of the lack of barb, but I have noticed some hook designs are poor at hooking or holding fish whether they have a barb or not. The new competition hooks definitely don't seem to have that sort of problem, they hook and hold quite well in my experience.

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  6. #15
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    May 2009
    Truckee, CA.
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    Default Re: Barbless Hook Performance - lost fish

    Since we are barbless on the T, we can't depend on a barb to do the work..........and I haven't needed a barb for my entire career....
    We learned to keep a fish on with tension, it's partly why the rods have flex.....
    Like Unknown, I'm gonna release them anyway, and find it heartening that not every fish will be coming to hand....that way I don't feel so much like a consumer. "I pays my money, I wants my fish...." Although, I played a really nice big 7lb bow to hand (almost),the hook fell out at the last second. That's what I get for dropping my tip.......
    I figure it's not supposed to be a sure thing. My feeling is to give them a 50/50 chance.
    If they can get away....OK by me....But not too many do.....I believe it's called a sporting attitude..
    Comp hooks are nice and heavy in addition to the improved gape...gets the fly down.


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  8. #16

    Default Re: Barbless Hook Performance - lost fish

    Quote Originally Posted by mcnerney View Post
    I've given up on using TMC barbless hooks and have moved to the competition style: FullingMill, Hanak, Firehole, Hends, Dohiku, etc. If you look carefully at how the hook point turns back upward, I think that helps with retaining the fish. Yes, they are more expensive, but I get better results. See this link:
    By the time you select the appropriate hook for the fly, do you end up with the same gap as the conventional hooks, or is the gap bigger?
    Zackdog lives.

  9. #17

    Default Re: Barbless Hook Performance - lost fish

    When I first started fly fishing about 8 years ago a big part of the decision was being able to tie my own flies too. Yeah, it was an expensive buy in to get started but was having a hoot. After a month of picking my flies out of the weeds, trees and anything else that could grab a hook my casting started to get better. Perhaps eight good casts before sitting down to pick out a wind knot. What happened next was purely The Lords work as I had no clue about anything. I was walking down the river thru a poison ivy patch for a place to fish alone while working out the details and this led me to a hole that was full of brook trout. My little Zebra midges were producing strikes but getting one to hand was a different matter.

    This was a barbless section of the river and those Brookies were driving me nuts, maybe one fish to hand for every 10 hook sets. If not having such a hoot I would have quit (my Yogi Berra impersonation). Fished that spot three times a week for about 6 weeks and each time I went the odds improved in my favor. I can't explain in detail what I was doing differently because it was a slow progression. Obviously I was doing a better job of keeping a tight line but that's not the point of this discussion. If you want to get better at fishing barbless, find a place with lots of brookies and practice, practice, practice. Without a doubt those little suckers will make you a better barbless fisherman.

    I was going fly fishing until my wife suggested it, now I can't tell who is outsmarting who!

    Being "one with nature" requires a knowledge of what animals are living nearby and a weapon of sufficient magnitude to give you at minimum an equal chance of survival. No one has an invisible aura that animals can detect and sense your good intentions.

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  11. #18
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    Mar 2011
    Meridian, Texas

    Default Re: Barbless Hook Performance - lost fish

    Just consider losing a fish with a barbless hook an "automatic release."

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  13. Default Re: Barbless Hook Performance - lost fish

    I pinch everything down. I don't lose very many fish. I hate having to dig a barbed fly out of a fish's mouth.

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    Last edited by jbcissell; 03-14-2018 at 09:30 AM.

  14. #20
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    Oct 2014
    SF Bay area California

    Default Re: Barbless Hook Performance - lost fish

    Been fishing barbless since the early 90's for all kinds of fish. I have not had many problems with lost fish even the larger ones. True, I have lost a few fish here or there but nothing that worries me. Main thing is to keep tension on the line and not let the fish get at an angle that can cause the hook to back out.

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