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    I am glad TU is involved in politics, they have shed a lot of light on mining and groundwater useage in Minnesota and have fought and won for the environment and trout in Minnesota.

    I will not talk about politics on this forum however.

    With the proposal of a mine near the BWCA We have had our own battles.

    Say what you want but there is not and there has never been a safe or clean mine that has sulfide waste.

    Not one, ever, so this company responsibility bs is nothing more than hot air, empty promises. It has never happened, and it’s not going to happen. A clean sulfide mine.

    The EPA is essentially gutted and regulations are being aggressively ended.

    Copper mines ruined Clark’s fork. You can tell yourself whatever you want.
    Last edited by unknownflyman; 01-03-2019 at 06:48 PM. Reason: Spelling and clarity, typed in a rush.

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    I am reminded that one does have to pollute a river system to kill off a species. The Lahontan Cutthroat trout of Pyramid Lake is an example.

    The Lahontan are the largest of the Cutthroat species growing up to 50 lbs in size. The world's record is 41 lbs. They were trapped for food, and the rivers that fed Pyramid Lake were dammed and dewatered for agriculture which destroyed the Lahontan spawning grounds and the Lahontan disappeared from Pyramid Lake.

    Dr. Robert Behnke found some small cutthroat trout in a stream near Pilot Peak which was a remnant of the original Lahontan and now they are back in Pyramid Lake, being raised in a fish hatchery from eggs of the remnant population.

    Lahontan cutthroat trout - Wikipedia

    Our early settlers did not value their natural environment; or more properly put, they valued farming, mining, and industry more. Today, we should seek to both preserve, protect, and provide.

    Voltaire is credited with the observation that "The Perfect is the enemy of the Good." Trout Unlimited should not have to be "perfect" in every aspect for us to support the "good" that it accomplishes.
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    "Discovery consists of seeing what everybody has seen and thinking what nobody has thought"..........Szent-Gyorgy

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  5. #43

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    Quote Originally Posted by unknownflyman View Post
    I am glad TU is involved in politics, they have shed a lot of light on mining and groundwater useage in Minnesota and have fought and won for the environment and trout in Minnesota.

    I will not talk about politics on this forum however.

    With the proposal of a mine near the BWCA We have had our own battles.

    Say what you want but there is not and there has never been a safe or clean mine that has sulfide waste.

    Not one, ever, so this company responsibility bs is nothing more than hot air, empty promises. It has never happened, and itís not going to happen. A clean sulfide mine.

    The EPA is essentially gutted and regulations are being aggressively ended.

    Copper mines ruined Clarkís fork. You can tell yourself whatever you want.
    I am not sure whether forum members are aware of this event just over two years ago in December 2016. Over 10,000 snow geese died after they landed on the abandoned Berkeley mine pit near Butte, Montana. Mine tailings ponds do not have to overflow to kill wildlife. Previously in 1995, over 342 geese died after landing on the pond

    This is not a mine from the 1800's. It was authorized in the 1950s and closed in 1982, less than 40 years ago.

    Die-Off of Snow Geese in Butte Possibly the Largest in History

    10000 snow geese die in Butte; possibly the largest die-off in history - Strange Sounds

    'Thousands' of geese die in toxic Montana pit mine - BBC News





    Regards,

    Silver



    "Discovery consists of seeing what everybody has seen and thinking what nobody has thought"..........Szent-Gyorgy

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    Quote Originally Posted by zjory View Post
    I was thinking about the TU life membership this year. Wonder if theyíd still keep hammering me for donations?
    I have tried that with other organizations. You'll make the list of people that are known to give a little more. Just give what you want to give and don't let it bother you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coug View Post
    Same here. Business, friends, forums and organizations
    If you have a Gmail account you can add a +whateverwordyouwanthere@Gmail.com to easily filter out this emails. Google understands that the word after the + symbol is for filtering. For example:
    josh+signups@gmail.com then create a filter called signups and they are all filtered there. Also you can do a +orgnamehere so you can know exactly who is selling your info.

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    Back to the original rant... I hear you. We give to many different nonprofits and get pounded by all of them especially at the end of the year. I've been on staff with a nonprofit so I understand what's going on but at the same time realize there has to be some balance. Some nonprofits like TU are probably facing an endless amount of things to do so I understand why they need more and more money. Other organizations such as ministry related organizations should realize they aren't businesses and stop following the capitalistic growth model which eventually eats itself.

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    I too get many emails and letters from TU it doesnít annoy me.

    The reason why they do it is because it works.

    People are busy, have trouble remembering their intentions and with older generations, sorry old duffers, need a little reminder.

    Is it sales? Yes to some degree, but what WE value is precious and needs stewardship especially in this modern age.

    Please look beyond price and annoyance and contemplate the true meaning of value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randyflycaster View Post
    ....... Many outdoor groups are secretly funded, in part, by the socialist left which, if they their way, would turn the US into Venezuela.
    .........
    Randy
    Thatís really funny....
    Luckily I donít have a nut allergy

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    I just looked through my deleted items folder for stuff from TU. Between TU national and Colorado TU I average about 5 per week which is a bit much imo. Itís not going to make me stop renewing my membership by any means, but what it does do is make delete them offhand without even opening 90% of the time. Iím sure Iím not the only one. I understand theyíre subscribing to the constant contact methodology, but there has to be a point of diminishing returns when you email people so much, your efforts become grouped with the spam we all get from every retailer whoís ever gotten ahold of an email address.
    Life is like a box of chocolates...and a river runs through it. Or something like that.

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