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jor fly 07-19-2012 10:51 AM

...HELLLLLLLLLLP! Wooley Bugger hackle!
Hey folks,

I bought some strung Chinese saddle hackle (black) to tie some black and orange buggers (for brown trout and small mouth). Well the hackle fibers are waayyyyyyyyyyyyy too long (~ 4x the hook gap on a size 8 streamer hook). I've tried trimming them down to a more appropriate size, but they still don't quite look right. Anyone got any suggestions, other than going out and trying to buy some better quality hackle??

ALSO: Anyone got a link to a site with a nice tutorial for a autumn splendor?

wt bash 07-19-2012 11:12 AM

Re: ...HELLLLLLLLLLP! Wooley Bugger hackle!
You can skip palmering the entire body and tie the hackle in as a collar or a more difficult route would be to split your thread open and slide the feather into the gap and cut off the stem so the hackle barbs are the length you want then spin your thread bobbin to tighten it all up and palmer the body brushing the fibers back as you go. It'll be fairly sparse and take some time but it'll save a trip to the shop and some cash.

BigCliff 07-19-2012 04:07 PM

Re: ...HELLLLLLLLLLP! Wooley Bugger hackle!
If you're going to buy wooly bugger hackle that way, you'll want to open up the package in the store and see it there's a decent number of skinny hackles in there. If the shop fusses at you for doing that, don't given them your money.

You're likely better off buying a Whiting Bugger pack-

Whiting's Wooly Bugger Pack at BEARSDEN.COM

jaybo41 07-19-2012 06:37 PM

Re: ...HELLLLLLLLLLP! Wooley Bugger hackle!
Good advice from BigCliff, those bugger packs are ideal. I didn't think of what WT mentioned, but a dubbing loop would also work.

Another idea, have you tried tying them in tip first and wrap up the shank to the eye? You might find some smaller barbs at the tip of the feather and then by the time you get to the eye, you've got some big ones for a collar.

I sometimes like a larger hackle on buggers, how big is too big? Can you post a photo of one tied up?

Google is your friend:

jor fly 07-20-2012 11:40 AM

Re: ...HELLLLLLLLLLP! Wooley Bugger hackle!
Thanks for the tips everyone.

Jaybo, how do I go about posting pics on here?

P.S. thanks for the video link!

jaybo41 07-20-2012 12:05 PM

Re: ...HELLLLLLLLLLP! Wooley Bugger hackle!

That thread should walk you through it. I use photobucket to host my photos. You can't directly upload from your computer, you must use a the web to host the photos.

jor fly 07-22-2012 08:46 PM

Re: ...HELLLLLLLLLLP! Wooley Bugger hackle!
Hey Jaybo,

For whatever reason, the link isn't working. It says "page not found"

jaybo41 07-22-2012 09:28 PM

Re: ...HELLLLLLLLLLP! Wooley Bugger hackle!
Sorry about that. Give this one a shot.

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