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Old 11-25-2012, 09:03 PM
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Default Dry Fly Hackles

Anyone have any experience with the Whiting Introductory Hackle packs.
They come in any of the following combinations for $60 for 4 halfs
4 half capes
2 half capes 2 half saddles
4 half saddles

They're ungraded, but apparently are equal to or better than bronze grade.
colors are generally brown, grizzly, white/black, dun

I think for $60, its a great investment considering i just bought dun half saddle for $25 shipped.

So anyone got any experience with them?


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Default Re: Dry Fly Hackles

Can't help, but I would be interested in finding the answer if you get it. I too am considering this pack. I got the Metz small sampler a while back, and it seemed like way fewer feathers than I expected.
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Default Re: Dry Fly Hackles

I've used about every type / brand name of the genetic hackles that have been available. Prior to these super high grade capes being available in my area I raised chickens myself and bought Indian capes in bulk batches. Regardless of the producer, the only way I know of to get exactly what you want in size, sheen, and so on is to be able to actually handle and examine the capes.

If you have no shops that have them so that you can remove them from the package for a close look then you may well have to go by what the seller says about these feathers. I have bought Whiting Farms capes and it was often possible to find lower grade capes that were for all practical intent, impossible to discern from the next level of grade and cost. So.......they will probably be just fine.

I have a lot of Metz & Keough capes and they have always been a good quality. Have you looked to see what they offer.

I just read the post right above this one; if you can swing it, buy whole capes. Unless you go crazy a good set of necks will last for many, many years to come.

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Default Re: Dry Fly Hackles

Check out KCC Feathers on the auction site.. he has some good quality dry hackle capes and saddles.. usually go for $25 and under.. auction style.

Other day I snagged myself a White River Med Dun cape for under $20... Also have a really nice furnace colored cape that I only paid like $10 for and they sent me a free saddle.. gotta love the auction site
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Default Re: Dry Fly Hackles

how is the barb stiffness on those capes. Just looking at their site now, and they look ok. But, i want stiff barbs.
As an example i tied a dry fly with a whiting bugger hackle, which looks stiff, but is actually pretty soft.
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Default Re: Dry Fly Hackles

I have gradually replaced all my old capes with Whiting - Hebret-miner bronze or silver or Whiting bronze. They are all amazing and much easier to tie with than the Metz I used to have. No issue with them - choose colors wisely.
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how is the barb stiffness on those capes. Just looking at their site now, and they look ok. But, i want stiff barbs.
As an example i tied a dry fly with a whiting bugger hackle, which looks stiff, but is actually pretty soft.
The ones i've gotten from this seller called "Nimrod Tackle" had very stiff barbs.. I have a grizzly cape from KCC with pretty stiff barbs.. but i haven't played around with enough different types to say if its super stiff.. or on the softer side

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I have gradually replaced all my old capes with Whiting - Hebret-miner bronze or silver or Whiting bronze. They are all amazing and much easier to tie with than the Metz I used to have. No issue with them - choose colors wisely.
Yeah, i have a whitingHebert silver half saddle in dun and the barbs are 'stiff'. Great for dries, but wrong color for my current projects.
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Default Re: Dry Fly Hackles

S Font - I've purchased two intro packs in the past when the hackle shortage was in full swing. They both came with 4 half capes and were perfect for my needs. Hackle sizes on mine ranged from 12-18, with a few smaller than that. I would say that they would grade at the bronze level and maybe a touch higher. For $60, it's a good deal if you can find one with the colors you need. Fortunately I did, and that was why I bought two of them.
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Default Re: Dry Fly Hackles

If you plan to tie up a lot of dries of the same size and the same or similar pattern, then have a look at the Whiting 100 packs; very even hackle sizes and good stiffness for dry flies.

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