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Thread: Does Joe Messenger Jr have a handle/call sign on this site?

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    Default Does Joe Messenger Jr have a handle/call sign on this site?

    Joe we met at The Sportsman's Emporium on Greenbag Rd. I wanted to see if you were on here. My name is Ryan Houser. I was the guy that showed up to the last two classes you did there (and actually knew what I was doing, not to get all arrogant).

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    Hi Ryan,

    I haven't run across him but that doesn't mean he isn't here.

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    Run the name through Google; looks like I got more than one solid contact hit.

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    I think we'd know it if Joe Jr. was a member.
    He's a very well known fly tyer and his name comes up often here on NAFFF

    His father Joe Sr. was a legend. The creator of not only the Messenger (bucktail) frog, but the classic "Irresistible" dry fly

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    He taught at a local fly tying round table thing. It was supposed to be like a gathering of guys to knock a couple back and swap flies at a local archery/fly shop. It turned out that nobody was any good and they were all asking Joe to teach them. All winter he taught a new pattern each week. I found out too late and only caught the last two classes.

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    I watched him tie a couple Irresstibles like his dad. No bobbin, no tools, just a nail in the table to hold the spool. We hit it off because at 22 I have over 13 years of experience tying (about as many years as the other folks at the class combined). <-- again trying not to come off all arrogant...

    He got a kick out of a "youngster" showing interest as opposed to retirees. (no offence to anyone)

    But, he was teaching a cool "local" Green Drake pattern of his own design (I believe) the first class I attended. He was cracking wise on me because, I showed up with my big pedistal rotary vise and I probably did look like some schmoe that went out and bought all kinds of expensive stuff not knowing how to tie. Others had been meeting for weeks building skills. But, as he went step by step tying bits at a time like a book come to life I was sitting there, done, while others were tying and adjusting stuff.

    I put the fly into my box of looker flies that won't ever see the water. I got a nod of approval from a legend!!! I was absolutely giddy like a school girl... Joe liked my fly! I'll post a pic here soon! He is a really cool guy. I hope to get in touch and learn the frog pattern this summer. I need a Regal vise though. To tie deer hair properly, the Messenger way.

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    Woah, you mean there were actually people that went to a class to learn something they didn't know? Crazy!

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    Ok... I admit I came off snarky. It was supposed to be a pop a top fly swap... I wasn't trying to be mean I was just trying to explain why Joe and I hit it off. I was really interested in his variation of deer hair spinning. Most beginners don't do that. I just caught his attention because, I thought he was really cool and I understood what he was talking about. It made for easy conversation...

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodrivertroutbum View Post
    Woah, you mean there were actually people that went to a class to learn something they didn't know? Crazy!
    If I may emphasize for a third time. I wasn't a jerk in the "class". I watched a master at his craft intently taking notes and all. He and I hit it off

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    Sometimes I cannot help but to be sarcastic.. Its my downfall, know that I tried hard not to write this but ****, I have failed. So for humors sake... Sounds like we have a man crush on our hands here Good luck finding Joe.
    -DJ

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