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    Default Whoops-Vise Trouble

    All of a sudden my Renzetti won't hold a hook (sz 20). I was tying #20 midges for the swap. It was fine then came back to the vise the next morning to tie the last four flies, and it wouldn't hold. Pretty sure I got head cement or super glue into jaws. Any ideas on how to clean it out?

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    I would try a dental pick or bodkin to see if you can chip it off. if that doesn't work I'd hit it with a bic lighter.

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    Default Re: Whoops-Vise Trouble

    If you get desperate, acetone (fingernail polish remover) will soften most adhesives.

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    Default Re: Whoops-Vise Trouble

    did th o-ring break?

    Poor quality materials and tools are destined to discourage beginner tiers and cause greater expense when the time comes to replace them.

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    Default Re: Whoops-Vise Trouble

    Is that O'ring all that holds the jaws together ?

    Mike
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    Default Re: Whoops-Vise Trouble

    Last night as I was tying a streamer I heard a pop/zing and my fly and attached bobbin were on the floor. When I went to reattach the hook in the vise a realized one of the jaws had broken completely off of my Renzetti Traveler. I have had this vise for two years now and it is my second - the first one had the tension thumb screw strip out almost immediately. Now this, perhaps I will look for another brand...

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    Default Re: Whoops-Vise Trouble

    Is that O'ring all that holds the jaws together ?


    no but it is an important piece of the system. without it the cam lever doesnt work

    i think this explains it

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSEo1nbA2Yw"]The O-Ring and what it does - Renzetti Traveler Vise, 2200 Series. - YouTube[/ame]
    Poor quality materials and tools are destined to discourage beginner tiers and cause greater expense when the time comes to replace them.

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    Default Re: Whoops-Vise Trouble

    Thanks guys.

    flytire: Thanks I just checked the "O" ring after your post, and it looks OK.

    Kelly: Sorry to hear that. You're the man when it comes to tying. Hope that Renzetti takes care of you, or I might be right behind you in a search.

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    The O ring on the traveller holds the jaws apart so you can put the hook in. It is a#7 O-ring (1/2" O.D. X 3/8" I.D>.) that you can buy at any hardware shop.

    The cam (a screw on older models) closes the jaw. There is also a spring between the jaw faces forward of the pivot point than holds the jaws apart.

    I never use glue but since you did, I suspect a piece of glue may be on a jaw face BETWEEN the jaw faces so they cannot close on small hooks. Open the jaws as wide as they can get, get a flashlight and look on the inner jaw faces.

    If you cannot chip the glue off or if you actually GLUED the jaws open, you will have to disassemble the jaw.
    Regards,

    Silver



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    Default Re: Whoops-Vise Trouble

    I've heard of the jaws popping from a few other people Kelly. Since it isn't my vise I don't know what the cause may have been but will offer what I know.

    If you are holding hooks size 16 - 22 on a regular basis, chances are your jaws are set for that size hook, otherwise there would be issues with the hooks slipping. When you move up to streamer size hooks you should be adjusting the little 'Gap screw' near the jaw tip so that the hook is held back from the tips of those jaws.

    This hook is set at about where I clamp all the size 6 - 1/0 size. When I want to use size 8 or 10 hooks I have to readjust in order to stay away from the tip of the jaw. I am clamping in toward the center of the jaw rather than toward the tip. I've been using the vise in the photo since 94' this way.


    In order to tie small dries I have to move the entire jaw assembly and readjust so that I can 'tip clamp' a tiny hook.

    The hook below is only being held while a picture was taken. Had I tried to clamp it tightly at the tip of the jaws I would have risk breaking the jaw.


    Only the people who have a jaw pop know where and how the hook was set and the jaw adjusted. I only offer the text and pictures as a possible explanation. It is possible that the new steel has a problem as well.

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