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Default 70 denier thread for salt water?

I goofed on Ebay (there's a shock). Anyway I bought a bulk lot of UTC thread, 48 spools, labeled " Kevlar and wire, 70 and 140 denier". Now what I got was two spools of kevlar, six spools of fine wire and the rest mostly 70 denier thread in every color of the rainbow. The thread is new and flat waxed. At $65 I have zero complaints with the price. Hell, the Scrooge McDuck part of me just loves looking at it.
But..., I break the thread. A lot. Is this just me being used to 3/0 salt water thread and a matter of technique and practice? Or do I have the wrong thread and need to sell it off and cut my losses? Nothing wrong with the thread, just curious if it's operator error or a poor choice of material.
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I goofed on Ebay (there's a shock). Anyway I bought a bulk lot of UTC thread, 48 spools, labeled " Kevlar and wire, 70 and 140 denier". Now what I got was two spools of kevlar, six spools of fine wire and the rest mostly 70 denier thread in every color of the rainbow. The thread is new and flat waxed. At $65 I have zero complaints with the price. Hell, the Scrooge McDuck part of me just loves looking at it.
But..., I break the thread. A lot. Is this just me being used to 3/0 salt water thread and a matter of technique and practice? Or do I have the wrong thread and need to sell it off and cut my losses? Nothing wrong with the thread, just curious if it's operator error or a poor choice of material.
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When I first made a foray into saltwater tying, I had some 70 denier thread and experienced what you mentioned, the easily breaking upon trying to tighten my wraps.

I just set my 70 denier aside for if and when I do something for small freshwater patterns. Keep it, sell it, but I don't think 70 denier is any good for the salt. I think it's important to be able to really bear down and tighten your wraps for saltwater patterns. Otherwise, salty fish pull the patterns apart with their bite pressure and/or sharp teeth.
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Default Re: 70 denier thread for salt water?

I haven't quite caught up on the denier conversions yet, but have used 6/0 thread for tying small salt patterns, like Gotcha's & Crazy Charlies of hook sizes 8 to 4.

I use Danville Flat nylon most, even for those smaller hooks, which I think is 210 denier.
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Default Re: 70 denier thread for salt water?

I use different sizes for various things. Threads that break once to often. Get used for underwraps. Weed guards or avoid bulk when material is added on top of another. Right it's a spool of black 3/0 UNI thread.
This looks to bigger than 210 Ultra Thread. Which doesn't break (unless pushed..... pulled maybe).
Never had other than ordinary problems with Danvilles flat waxed.
What took longest to find was a thread for packing hair. And I had it.
Was breaking off everything including kevlar. Past year, started using 30 something year old leftover rod building thread. Might cry when spool runs out.

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Default Re: 70 denier thread for salt water?

I have around 100 spools of rod wrapping thread, and I try to use them whenever possible, but the Danville flat waxed is the go-to for every big fly, salt or otherwise
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