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    Default Backing for salmon fishing?

    I am just about too get my first spey rod, 13' 7 or 8 wt (still need too try them its the scott or air flo and it takes a month to get them into NZ), there is no doubt that I will need a skagit head with long 9ips sink tips (for salmon, and sea run's).

    What rating do I need for the backing is 20lb going too be enough (I will use some heavy tippet upto 30 lb in the large rivers), the guy in the store thinks it should do but he only fishes for trout in creeks (the last thing I want is too loose the line), and is 100 yards enough or should I be using more.

    The rivers I will be fishing are 100-400 cumecs (cubic meters per second) flow (fast flowing, deep and wide) and salmon are normaly 10-30 lb chinnok

    Thanks
    Chris
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    Default Re: Backing for salmon fishing?

    Chris: You will want to use heavier backing when going after salmon. You don't want the weakest point in your setup to be the backing, trust me on this I learned the hard way. Your weakest point should be the tippet. When I fished in AK I used 25 lb tippet and the backing was approx. 35 lb.

    Larry

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    Default Re: Backing for salmon fishing?

    Dittos to Larry,

    I use 36 lb Cortland Saltwater Micron and never heavier than 25 lb on the leader. The trick is, don't let the fish into the backing.

    Ard

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    Default Re: Backing for salmon fishing?

    Hi Chris,

    I agree with Larry and Ard. As to how much backing you should use, it depends on the reel. If you have a big large arbor reel you want the backing and fly line to fill up the spool less some clearance. So it could be 100 yards but it could also be 200 yards or more depending on the reel capacity and the Spey line length.

    Frank

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    Default Re: Backing for salmon fishing?

    Add me to the ditto's above. The interior line in a spey line will frequently be 20# test on lines rated 6 and down, 30# on lines 7 and up. So if it's a really light spey (obviously not given the intended use) 20 would be fine; but not in this case; use 30# if you want a 'regular' Dacron type backing material or something a tad higher if your reel will hold same.

    Lastly, don't worry about putting 'gobs' of backing on your reel; 125-150 yards is plenty. Why? Well lets assume you're using a 10' leader, the typical spey line will be 120' long (some like the Carron's will go to 150) and the fish just gets 30 yards of backing off your reel.

    Let's see now:
    10'
    120'
    90'
    ----------
    At that point the fish is 220'** off the reel; what do you think the chances are that you'll land same?

    fae

    ** For comparison, 220' is tick short of three quarters of the length of a standard football field.

    Edit: "..... and never heavier than 25 lb on the leader." My God Ard, you don't fool around do you!!!!!
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    Default Re: Backing for salmon fishing?

    If you don't have as much backing capacity as you wish for, you can always use a super braid type line for backing. I'm a big fan of Daiwa Saltiga Boat Braid. In the 55 pound test rating, it is the same diameter as 12 pound test Dacron. It also lays down flat and is not abrasive like GSP fiber braids.

    MP

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    Default Re: Backing for salmon fishing?

    Thanks all

    Chris
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    Default Re: Backing for salmon fishing?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisinselwynNZ View Post
    Thanks all

    Chris
    Chris: Be sure to keep us posted on how your salmon fishing goes!

    Larry

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    Default Re: Backing for salmon fishing?

    Quote Originally Posted by mcnerney View Post
    Chris: Be sure to keep us posted on how your salmon fishing goes!

    Larry
    The salmon runs start late january or the start of feburay
    Ill post some pics and hopefuly my first salmon with a fly too

    Chris
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    Default Re: Backing for salmon fishing?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisinselwynNZ View Post
    The salmon runs start late january or the start of feburay
    Ill post some pics and hopefuly my first salmon with a fly too

    Chris
    EXCUSE ME????

    We have to wait 5'ish months??? Ooooo, wrong answer.


    fae
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