A New Custom-Built Dickerson 8014 Guide .....


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Having had a look again I think you are right. Those ring seats I've seen have all been on custom rods.
You usually find lighter ring seats on rods that take smaller, lighter reels -- say, for line sizes 3 or 4 -- that aren't as likely to shake loose when you wave them around. Typically you see heavier-duty locking seats on rods designed for heavier reels. Your rod builder might have been thinking the dainty ring seat looked more elegant, but without giving much consideration to its actual function.

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I'm quite open-minded about quality from the Far East, Ard. Hell, British industry is often backward and outdated and South Korea may well turn out a better product than we can with their new plant. Why not? Beyond that ..... it's politics.
A few years ago, when Jim Murphy was trying to reinvigorate the moribund Hardy marketing effort here in the US, he told me that the quality of Korean metallurgy was so much better than in the US or Britain that they actually could offer a better product for a lower price. The reason was that so much less Korean barstock had to be rejected due to imperfections. The milling and assembly processes were the same anywhere, and labor costs were not significantly cheaper (which surprised me to hear). They kept the manufacturing of only the most elite models in the UK, because for those models the higher price they could get for the British provenance supported the higher cost of finding quality materials in Britain. They did, however, continue to make the very hard alloy click-check teeth in Britain and ship them to Korea for assembly, because the alloys they could get in Korea were not as durable.

Lewis Chessman

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I stumbled across this old thread by accident and thought I'd update.
I did repair the broken tip and lost under 1 cm of stick. I was able to remove the original silk thread intact and used it to dress the replaced ring:


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1-Dickerson 8014 Guide Tip Repair 10.JPG

I've learnt no more of the rod's history but I was able to fish it once two years ago (so little time, so many rods to fish!). It was a proficient tool but rather heavy for my arm and I couldn't fish it for a full day without undertaking training first. ;) As one might expect, it's not a rod to pick for distance but I had no issues on the river I fished, about 20-25 ft wide, throwing 45 feet or so down and across.

I guess the fact I haven't fished it since suggests it's not a 'top rod' for me but that's my fault not its. I've bought over a dozen old carbon rods since this, as my interest in them grew, and it's them I've fished when able. I will take this rod to the river next season and give it a fair trial. There. That's My New Year's resolution!

dr d

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carlin did a taper insight as a rather med-fast bamboo;the taper analysis of 8014 shows a significant

med.tweeking .

nice we