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Got trip to Talkeetnah July 15-23. Got plenty bright stuff for Salmon(Chums,Silvers). Plus some pegged bead stuff. Need suggestions for the Rainbows, Dollys, Grayling. Oops squid shrimp for Kings Season closes July13AA16448A-8172-4378-899D-1F9053B0FF9D.jpegA4E05997-A335-43BF-88D9-F5D2E9075FE0.jpeg13551C1C-EEF3-4EFA-8BF6-0A43F68A3DA3.jpegF143A26F-6239-4B79-B86B-7733154AF7E4.jpegFF73AAD4-640A-434A-BA0C-6D0774F307EB.jpeg787FC1D2-9F41-4025-BE58-3A9079A93D07.jpegAFC0EED3-CB60-4FB3-A153-7D53233441A5.pngE9F3D95B-145A-4BFC-A4EC-83B27D53AB43.jpeg
 
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All the pink flies on standard hooks should catch fish. If you are going to the Talkeetna area be advised that the big river is glaciated which means low visibility conditions. There are freestone streams that flow into it, do you know where the actual destination water is?
 

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Purple ESLs even for the non salmon stuff?
Got a jet boat trip up the big river I spose and a float trip on WillowCreek booked so far.
 

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Purple ESLs even for the non salmon stuff?
One week up there we didn't catch any bows, cutts, or dollies on anything except those. Heck, I thought everyone used them up there, maybe that's why they worked! :D

Everything up there seems to be so closley driven by the time of year. I wouldn't plan to see any coho then.
 

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Don’t know booked Phantom TriRivers leaving outa Talkeetnah. Hopefully they will know at the time and go to feeder creeks that have fish. I ain’t got a clue down here in south M’isipi.
 

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Might be a bit early for Silvers but should be chums and maybe a few pinks in the waters you are looking at. Beads will do just fine for grayling or rainbow trout. These are my standards for fishing the park streams in July:

1. Beads- I like Montana color 8mm but get a variety in 6mm and 8mm. Three Rivers fly and tackle in Wasilla is worth a stop.
2. Dolly llamas: black and white, olive and white, brown and olive, and just plain black. You can also peg a bead in front of them and now you have egg-sucking leeches. I tend to do better with mini dolly llamas with a tungsten cone but could just be my personal preference.
3. Graboid mini-me leeches.
4. Mice: Mr. Hankey and Mini Mr. Hankey are nice patterns. The hook rides up so you can chuck it into a woodpile and let it drop oh so nicely into a log jam. I've caught some nice grayling on the Mini-Mr. Hankey for what it's worth.
5. small flesh flies in a variety of colors.

In my experience, I tend to do better on the Parks streams using smaller streamers. They can get fished pretty hard and the water can be skinny.
 

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Thanks Bushhak! Work in progress. Still playing with “not having purple stuff”. While back did a Ozark trip on WhiteRiver. We used double pegged beads drifting over gravel for some nice browns. Only single beads/hooks in Ak.?
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What do you think about these? Sure appreciate your help Bushak!!!!View attachment 34584View attachment 34585View attachment 34586View attachment 34587
I love purple stuff! I've had surprising success purple nymphs for grayling (and trout) and just throwing some purple dubbing onto my streamers. In fact, my largest trout on the parks streams was caught using a purple and gray mini complex twist bugger. Single hook is the name of the game but I use mainly articulated leeches. I like using shanks and then attaching a hook using 30-50 pound braid depending on my target species. I'll try to upload some pictures later but a lot of what I use is based on a lot of patterns at Alaska Fly Fishing Goods. Take a look at some of their simple flesh patterns. I know I've had luck just wrapping white and a light pink marabou around a hook. Rabbit, in similar colors spun on a dubbing loop, can also make a really effective flesh pattern.

For grayling, your standard attractor nymphs such as hares ear, pheasant tails, prince nymphs, copper johns, etc. will all produce. You can get away with bigger nymphs up here too. I mainly use size 12 and 14. I always have some stonefly nymphs with me as well as those are pretty common in Alaska but you won't see any of the big hatches like the lower 48. Although I did have a fun day fishing dries on the kenai river during a pretty good caddisfly hatch last July.
 
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I was told by dude in fly shop Anchorage no articulated/ trailer/ double hooks. Also changed to singles on Mepps/spoons for the spin guys in a our group. I cut off the hooks left the hook eye to hold the bead. I can easily get trailer hooks back on the braid. 178C6AA1-63CF-40F1-9B79-2A5B3B0EC04B.jpegEEF39BFF-D618-4CB1-A65F-563D4A6CF567.jpeg2B8382B5-C946-4107-BC9F-3993A414E899.jpegSure need clarification. Seems Ak regs geared to protect Salmon fishery
 

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65C797EF-B081-40B7-B94D-91E955B9D611.png2D047689-4C37-458B-ADF9-C7A42DAECC1D.jpegI hear you about purple. “Use any color....as long as it’s purple”😛
Stone/Salmon flies used on Idaho, Henry’sFork
 

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Maybe you can clear up the bear/ packing firearms guestion for me. Gonna try to copy URL to my post on FTF if it works. Thanks for your time! Are you still iced up, snowed in ???
 

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I never carried a firearm for bears in AK, only spray. I brought a small caliber for halibut though, large live fish thrashing in a small boat...and you're gonna have a bad time. I'm no seasoned veteran but have done numerous remote DIY trips, back country trips, hiking across tundra, rafting Bristol Bay rivers, etc. to AK over the years and always felt the spray was the best option.
 

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Maybe you can clear up the bear/ packing firearms guestion for me. Gonna try to copy URL to my post on FTF if it works. Thanks for your time! Are you still iced up, snowed in ???
I'm still iced up with a foot of snow in some places although it's disappearing fast. The valley and Anchorage have enjoyed some nice weather in the 50s and 60's over the past week or two. There's some moving water in places but it's understandable high. I'm actually moving to Wasilla end of May so I'm hopeful flows are a little more manageable then. I tied up a bunch of stoneflies this winter and I'm anxious to see if they grayling like them.

I've always carried bear spray. The best thing you can do is simply be "bear aware" and that can avoid a lot of situations. Some easy things to do are to make noise and give bear plenty of space if you see one. If you are comfortable with a handgun then that's not a bad choice but I am not so I use bear spray. When we'd go up the Kwethluk, near Bethel, we always had a short-barrelled 12 gauge with slugs on the boat but in 11 years we never used it.
 

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Facing disappointment on my trip. Chinooks/Kings outa season. Coho/Silvers big question Mark??? Maybe some Chums and Pinks. Sockeye are later on. Now Dollys aren’t around but Grayling. RAINBOWS! Maybe better bring some big salty stuff and some wire for some Pike in the lakes. Hope the jet boat trip and float trip on the Willow will work out better than it appears ☹ Denali tourist here I come...☹
 
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