Bead Fishing in Fly Fishing Only Water

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I have read that in some “fly fishing only” areas in Alaska that fishing with beads not attached to the hook is not allowed. I wonder if attaching a bead to a streamer hook, near the eye, might be effective and similar to having a bead placed above the hook?

If you think I am crazy it's ok as lots of folks think the same.


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Wouldn't that be an egg sucking leach? (They do seem to work quite well...)

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I am thinking of a naked streamer hook with an egg bead attached near the eye of the hook.

I agree that egg sucking leaches work well, perhaps I am thinking of a naked egg sucking leach, ah a name that is unlikely to catch on.

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Now I understand! I'm not sure the brown shirts would consider that as a fly. A fly needs to be constructed by common methods known as fly tying. A tube fly is only an attractor and not legal in ffo waters. I'm pretty sure your fly would be troublesome.

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Stan

How would such a rig differ from attaching an egg bead to an egg hook?

I would love to stay away from both brown shirts and brown bears:)
 

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They usually will consider a bare bead as not fly tying. Almost all of the rivers allow the beads. You will save a lot of grief if you stick with conventional flies on the FFO rivers.

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I have never been convinced that a bead mounted on the hook will out fish a well tied glo-bug. I've listened to guides on the upper Kenai that swear the trout will no longer hit a glo-bug and then catch some more up. I've always wondered if they weren't able to tie go-bugs well as they certainly require a technique, especially the small ones. For a real change-up, try a bead head prince. Nymphs may be the best kept secret. JMHO.
 

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Try a nymph a streamer or an egg imitation. Used to be a guy on the Salmon who cleaned up on Salmon using nothing more than a clear bead and a bare hook, that's mouth snagging not fly fishing!
 

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Tying Recipe;

Hook: A.J. Steelhead iron size #3
Tag: Flat Gold tinsel
Body: Dubbed with blended opossum, claret & black
Rib: Heavy French braid gold, ribbed over all; tag and body
Hackle: Goose shoulder feather bleach burned and dyed rusty red (Rite Dye)
Wing: An under-wing of polar bear or similar white hair, veiled with brown mallard flank
Head: Finished with bright red / orange lacquer paint
 

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That looks like it would be a super sockeye fly. It also looks like a lot of time prepping and tying. You must live in an area with long winters, LOL.
 

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Hi,

Actually that fly is best for trout and char in the fall, I don't recall ever catching a salmon on the pattern. Tie time isn't really bad, the wing is a whole dyed mallard flank so there's no time spent setting wings. You just wrap the body add some hair, twist the collar and tie that flank on top. The head paint goes over the cement after it dries. I don't know what fish think that is, maybe they really don't think it's anything. I do know that it's a fly and that they will work :)
 

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The fly reminds me of one of Mike Hirschberger's (sp?) he called Fred the Red or some such thing. It worked well on reds, as the name implies. Mike had the Orvis shop in Anchorage years ago and was a really great guy.
 

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Hi Russ,

No Orvis shop there any more, Mountain View handles some Orvis inventory but isn't an Orvis franchise. I call the fly Red Head and they were just a product of my having time & materials. If that fellow tied like that and fished them too we probably would have hit it off. I've met a lot of fellows who tie decent flies but fish with plastic, I'm guessing they either have no confidence in fly fishing or they desperately want to catch fish.

I've never used the Red Head and been skunked, below is the first fish taken with one.


Not a bad start, that day the fly caught a bunch :)
 
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