patrick62
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Now that's a good sign.
Could be a very crowded fishing season- Covid quarantine rebound?
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alfaromeo
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we have a similar sign here on the american river, sacramento..... too bad stupid people cannot read
rsagebrush
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Not only the reading but if they could they wouldn't care anyways.
corn fed fins
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If only those people were just a bit dumber, they probably would try casting in a parking lot. I'll give you more credit.
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corn fed fins
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Nice! Wonder when that sign went in? Was not there when I frequented that section but they hadn't done any improvements either.
If our club starts now, we could have a permanent one in about 2 years. That's usually how long signage takes around here.
Sadly your club will struggle with the likes of Dan Brauch and Lori Martin. Your great river is a funny beast. The amount of time effort and money that they poor into that river yet nary a closure during the critical 3-6 weeks of spawn. All the while the fish in the spawning drainages of the Fork and Rado get the protection they need. Not really sure of why this dichotomy exists within their ranks.
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hatidua
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My expectations for vacant fishing spots next to parking spots aren't very high.
Northcountryman
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Went today to a new place, figuring that being Easter Sunday, should be pretty quiet- noyt so!! Parking lot was packed and at least half a dozen guys fishing in a 200 yd stretch. Not terrible as I've seen much worse, but surprised it was so busy on a holiday! Not sure what that portends for the season , but my gut feeling is, there will be higher than pre-covid usage on most public access streams.
Swfl gladesman
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Man reading this makes me realize how lucky I am to fish the Northern Everglades and 10 Thousand Island where it's possible to still get away from people.
corn fed fins
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Actually Mr. Branch has nothing to do with our area. He is the CPW biologist in Gunnison. As for Ms. Martin, I have no idea who she is. The thought of closing the river during the spawn has been discussed on a low level. The problem is the river is part National Park, Wilderness Area, and conservation district. Not so easy getting any blanket policy. The biggest hurdle by far is CPW, as they are all about dollars and people management; thanks to the liberal fools that merged CDoW with Colorado Parks. Now our wildlife dollars are spent on dog runs and toilet cleaning!
redietz
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I didn't even try. I won't fish on weekend any more, even holiday ones (although I make an exception for Mother's day.)
I haven't heard Maryland figures yet, but Pennsylvania sold something like 50% more licenses last year than the year before.
To top it off, there have been so many people fishing here that a lot of land owners in places I've fished for decades have started posting their land. That only concentrates more people onto public land.
Brauch. When we wanted closures, we made it happen. It took 3 anglers to get the closures on 4 mile, canyon...etc. You do not have to wait for the meetings (round tables) to get involved, you can call these people and speak to them, set appointments, have meetings and use your public news resources. It takes a more diplomatic approach not just stomping your feelings down peoples throats. The closure of that area has been spoken about on more than a low level, for decades. Paved lots, flushing toilets and the like have taken a great deal of funds and does deteriorate the money the river receives for enhancement. The removal program has been a failure for this river in many ways. Left or right, sound fish management is the most important factor in your argument, water is not arguable as the feds rule the roost.
corn fed fins
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We don't wait for round tables as they are a waste of time. We start with our regional biologist, get their input and, if need be, fund the preliminary study. From there we work up with the backing of our local biologist. Still though, getting regulations in a Nat'l Park is different than some state owned land.
Additionally, uniform restrictions are a problem. There is already confusion on an entire section of the river. Colorado is bad enough with game laws and units and I'll be damned if I participate in creating that mess for anglers.
Closures will come but has not been discussed at any public meeting or any meeting I have attended since I moved here concerning the river. Frankly though, it can all be avoided with simple education and that's what I would personally prefer. I enjoy fishing during the spawn as its a great time of the year to be on the water. Closures remove ALL the water and it's so simple to avoid redds and focus on the other 90% of the water.
The fewer that know of an area, the lesser the impact. Less impact means less restrictions. Less restrictions means greater freedom. I'm far from being a grumpy old man. Give me 30 years and we'll see then.
Additionally, uniform restrictions are a problem. There is already confusion on an entire section of the river. Colorado is bad enough with game laws and units and I'll be damned if I participate in creating that mess for anglers.
Closures will come but has not been discussed at any public meeting or any meeting I have attended since I moved here concerning the river. Frankly though, it can all be avoided with simple education and that's what I would personally prefer. I enjoy fishing during the spawn as its a great time of the year to be on the water. Closures remove ALL the water and it's so simple to avoid redds and focus on the other 90% of the water.
The fewer that know of an area, the lesser the impact. Less impact means less restrictions. Less restrictions means greater freedom. I'm far from being a grumpy old man. Give me 30 years and we'll see then.
timoteo
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Maybe, however, I fished the same area the last two years at this same time, with about the same weather, and half as many people.
mikemac1
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I am a “Hit em where they ain’t kind of angler”. It is a simple formula—fish where they ain’t, fish when they ain’t and most importantly fish where they can’t.
Two weeks ago I spent several productive hours all alone on the Yellowstone on two different days. All though there were a couple of anglers hanging around the FAS, I ventured well away in complete solitude.
This week I’ve been on the Florida Atlantic Coast in Mosquito Lagoon with my kayak and although the fishing has been marginal because of the weather, there are plenty of places to find solitude on the water. The same will hold true next week on the Florida Gulf Coast.
I really don’t think it matters where you fish, visiting and occasional anglers tend to congregate in the same predictable spots and all float to the surface like foam on a beer. YNP is crowded every year but its still not difficult to fish when and where they ain’t. Other anglers are not that hard to avoid if you know when and where to fish—Where They Ain’t.
timoteo
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mikemac1,
I agree with your thoughts.
Sometimes though, I want to fish a certain area, at a certain time, for specific reasons- in this case somewhere that I knew there was the possibility of catching large trout on dry flies, at this time of year-where most places this is not possible yet. Unfortunately, this place is not very big, and it is all very accessible. I knew all of this ahead of time of course, and expected it to be busy, just not as busy as it was. It took a few days, and was challenging, but I did find some large trout that I caught on small dry flies. By the way, this is not a local stream.
caddis75
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I really didn't think it was going to be as crowded, but yesterday I dropped by my fly shop and the guys looked exhausted. They rarely look that way. Online orders and customers have gone up quite a bit it seems.
bumble54
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Here in England, I've just seen pictures of one of our local fisheries, shoulder to shoulder, bait fishing, spinning and fly fishing, sat, stood, wading, my idea of hell on Earth. I'll give it a miss thank you very much.
Chris_in_Louisiana
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Seems much calmer this April than last here in Louisiana. We do have a lot of water though, so plenty of room for people to spread out whether chasing warmwater species or salt.
As for Colorado, I can't speak for conditions personally, but know a blogger I follow had quite a few pics from a well known stretch of water in a recent post, and there wasn't another fisherman to be seen. Maybe it was just the fact it was a holiday weekend.
As for Colorado, I can't speak for conditions personally, but know a blogger I follow had quite a few pics from a well known stretch of water in a recent post, and there wasn't another fisherman to be seen. Maybe it was just the fact it was a holiday weekend.