Fishing on the shore

zamboknee

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Was out tossing the line at a lake yesterday.
It's been over a year since I've been fly fishing so I'm a little rusty.

Any tips on fly fishing from the shore?
I was having trouble just trying to get the fly in the water so I can begin casting and line dropping down the eyelets to the point I'd have to pull it back out with the leader and tippet.
 

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I roll cast line out before my final cast. Have had luck with long sinking polyleaders with streamers in Mirror Lake.

I would like to try midge emergers, the surface action is crazy sometimes.
 

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How were you holding the rod? I can't visualize why the line is slipping back through the guides. I do a lot of shore fishing, no boat or kayak, or there's not enough room in the boat. Three guys fishing, two person boat. Plus I'm the only fly fisher in the group. Generally, I pull out about 9 feet of line, my rods are 8 1/2 and 9 feet long. Then strip another 15-20 feet of line off the reel, since I don't use a stripping basket in fresh water, the line lies on the ground, the grass, boat ramp, the dock depending where I'm fishing. I start my cast with that length and make two or three false casts, feeding line into the back cast. Last back cast I finish with a single haul which will shoot the remaining line. I would say I catch most of my fish within 30-40 feet of where I'm standing. I guess I should ask what you're fishing for?
 

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OK. I use furled leaders that average about 5' in length and add roughly 5' of tippet to them. The only time I'll go longer is if I'm fishing for trout that are spooky. I'll use about 7' then. My casting is always wobbly. Just make sure you have a couple feet of the fly line beyond the tip top. You should be able to get your cast started with that.
 

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I just slop out enough line to make sort of a roll cast so I have some line tension with the line in front of me then begin false casting while feeding line.
 

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I just hook the first tree or bush that looks nice on the way in and break off. Good to get that out of the way nice and early before you realize there are fish in there you can't cast to. :D

Ok, seriously now. I tend to cast down the bank and out a bit depending on things I might catch behind me. I also tend to use a lot of side arm casting on lakes with tangle hazards as well. You can get a good few false casts with you casting shoulder and arm on the lake side usually and then use the loaded rod to place your final cast out a good ways in tight quarters. As for the eyes, don't hold your rod tip up without about 9+ feet of line out. Roll cast it out or use above method. You can also strip line as you give the rod tip a figure eight motion pointing down to the water. Or just drag it out using the water for tension. Just don't point the rod tip up when you line is still out of the water. weight of you line will pull everything back down. Good luck.
 

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As angledangle stated above. I do most shore fishing at an angle not straight out; so my fly is swimming along the shore not straight into shore. I also keep aprox 9' of line & my leader outside the tip top of the rod. A quick roll cas & Im ready to throw it out there
 

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I'm pretty much a shore fisherman as well, I keep a half rod length of fly line through the top guide to prevent it from sliding back through the guides. When rigging your rod get the fly line through the guides. When you are moving from one spot to another, wrap your leader around the back of the reel foot and use one of the upper snake guides as a hook keeper. That will eliminate the fly line from going back through the guides. As mentioned above a quick roll cast will get you going, or just water loading the line you already have out.

Try and stick with a 9' tapered leader, it will be more manageable the the 13' leader tippet you described above.

What has been a great help to me is a pair of breathable hip boots for those spots you may want to get into the water. I use the stocking foot type and interchange my wading boots with my full length waders.

Denny
 

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Laugh all you want. If you are walking around a lot of brush and **** where you get line hung up on, a cheap homemade stripping basket saves a bunch of aggravation. I use one in certain places that are overgrown.

Keep enough line out of the tip to keep it from crawling down. Short roll casts and then a couple false casts usually do the job. Don’t worry, you’ll figure it out. Have fun!
 

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Roll cast out 10 to 15ft of fly line plus the leader and then start your cast. On retrieving the line do not bring all of the fly line back into the rod guides, keep 15ft minimum (20ft even better) of fly line on the water to load your rod for the next cast.

Anytime you have less fly line out of the tip of the rod than the rod length the line will come back into the guides and pile up at your feet.
 

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I hike to high mountain lakes most of July and August. Primarily to get away from crowds. While I have a packraft and use it often, winds sometimes preclude me from using the packraft. To much wind I get blown around to much.
My best tip is first and foremost, google earth the lake. Find drop offs or points.
Second, go to those points. Knowing a point on all sides, N-S-E-W is the best.
Set yourself on the point with the wind blowing down the lake, horizontal to the point. I cast out and let the wind blow it across the point. When I first started fly fishing would find a point that allowed me to fish casting with me right shoulder out towards the lake. As I learned to cast backwards and even left handed I find the best point with a nice drop off and a nice shallow rocky bay.
Windy days means no packraft, but great nymph fishing with a strike indicator because the chop moves the strike indicator up and down giving your nymph life. Cast it out, let the wind push the wind across your face and plan the cast to 'drop off the edge'.
Last but not least, hike with water shoes. Some lakes I can hike out a couple feet into. Cools off my feet, but also gives me a bit more angle to cast. Of, course, if you are hiking to a lake, carry a fresh pair of socks to put on for the trip back. Whether you use water shoes or not. A fresh pair of socks for the walk home is awesome!!
 

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I once saw a young flyer struggling with what you described and saw him casting with just the leader out of the tip. I don't think you would cast with just the leader of the tip but just like the other guys already suggested, you could use more line out of the tip to prevent the line from slipping down the guides.

Stripping basket is super great when fishing from the banks preventing line tangles on brush or being stepped on. If you are using intermediate line the basket will help you to keep the line from sinking and help you to cast farther too.
 

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Was out tossing the line at a lake yesterday.
It's been over a year since I've been fly fishing so I'm a little rusty.

Any tips on fly fishing from the shore?
I was having trouble just trying to get the fly in the water so I can begin casting and line dropping down the eyelets to the point I'd have to pull it back out with the leader and tippet.
Here's a trick for getting line out: pull about 2-3 feet of fly line (leader doesn't count) out from the tip guide and point the rod at a downward angle towards the water. Now strip about 20 ft. of line from the reel (about 4-6 strips). Now lift rod until it's pointing about straight up and immediately begin a stirring motion (it doesn't have to be fast; just fast enough to keep the line off the ground) and simultaneously allow line to slide through the fingers of your line hand. In a few seconds the 20 ft. of line will be past the rod tip and you simply lay the rod down towards the water, the line will fall straight out in front of you.

Note: this will put some twist in the line, so I generally stir 3 times clockwise then 3 times counter-clockwise to get rid of it.

Another way to do the same thing is to pull about 3-4 feet of fly line from the rod tip and then strip off about 20 ft. of line from the reel, then while pointing the rod at the water (20 degree angle?) simply wave the rod tip left-right and let the line slip down the rod guides.

If I have room for it, I usually do the first technique. It's more fun. You do have to be careful with spooky fish though.
 

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Here's a trick for getting line out: pull about 2-3 feet of fly line (leader doesn't count) out from the tip guide and point the rod at a downward angle towards the water. Now strip about 20 ft. of line from the reel (about 4-6 strips). Now lift rod until it's pointing about straight up and immediately begin a stirring motion (it doesn't have to be fast; just fast enough to keep the line off the ground) and simultaneously allow line to slide through the fingers of your line hand. In a few seconds the 20 ft. of line will be past the rod tip and you simply lay the rod down towards the water, the line will fall straight out in front of you.

Note: this will put some twist in the line, so I generally stir 3 times clockwise then 3 times counter-clockwise to get rid of it.

Another way to do the same thing is to pull about 3-4 feet of fly line from the rod tip and then strip off about 20 ft. of line from the reel, then while pointing the rod at the water (20 degree angle?) simply wave the rod tip left-right and let the line slip down the rod guides.

If I have room for it, I usually do the first technique. It's more fun. You do have to be careful with spooky fish though.
Excellent method.

I do something similar. After pulling like off the reel, I wave the rod tip back and forth to get the line out of the rod tip and onto the water. You can also flip the rod tip as if you are feeding line or mending line. Then the line won't twist.

After you get some line out, roll cast it out. Then repeat to get more line out, roll cast and repeat until you have the amount of line out that you want.
 

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Bow and Arrow cast is always a option if in a tight spot and need to get over something.
 
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