I nail knot Chameleon 0.019" 0r 0.021" to the fly line, then tie a perfection loop as a loop to loop connector to the leader.Im curious what people are using to attach fly line to leader.
Either loop to loop or leader to fly line with nail/needle knot?
Of course loop to loop is much quicker and saves fly line and leader material but i find its bulky and too many knots in the section.I cut the fly line loop off and attach with the needle knot.Problem is changing leaders one has to cut back the fly line.I have heard there is approx 30cm level line after the loop before taper starts kicking in.I doubt one would change a leader more than say 15 times in the lifetime of the actual line.Assuming tippet rings are used or loop to loop tippet to leader knots are constructed.
Thankyou, that’s a great explanation. I’m actually going to be using my fly line to tightline nymph sometimes and I’d like to avoid the loop going through the guides. I actually really like the idea of nail knotting a factory leader on then cutting the part where it starts to taper down to the tippet. I’d like to be able to use the 4wt line for other uses too so that’s perfect.Vic_can,
The reason I use a butt section nail knotted to the fly line is to keep a smooth connection between the fly line and leader and because I am using a leader that is around 12ft or so on my trout sized fly rods, and the line to leader connection is in the rod guides many times during the day while landing fish. Plus I think it gives a better leader turnover/transfer during the cast than a loop to loop connection. When nail knotting only a 1ft section on the fly line you do not get the advantages of the smooth connection because you have two big old loops, and their associated knots, that will be inside your guides on occasion when using long leaders. Now I tie my own leaders so my typical butt section is somewhere between 3ft and 5ft long depending on rod weight, leader length and flies being cast so the only thing that gets inside my rod guides is the smooth nail knot.
Many who use the 1ft piece connected to the fly line are those who use factory tapered leaders that are standard 9ft length and they like to change the whole leader at times. Rather than the short section I would recommend just folding over your fly line to form a loop, secured with a couple of nail knots, and loop you leader to that. I don't see any advantage to the short section nail knotted to the fly line other than maybe some durability at the loop to loop connection but I have not had any problems with loops in a fly line being looped to the leader directly. All of my 6wt and larger rods are set up with a loop in the fly line because I think it is a strong connection and I don't typically use long leaders on those size rods.
For those who like to use factory tapered leaders you can cut the loop off of those and nail knot it to your fly line then find the point on the factory leader where it is starting to level to the tippet section and at that point cut the leader and tie a loop there, or add a tippet ring is what I have done, and then loop your tippet to that tapered butt section. That tapered butt section will last thru a full fishing season or two, and can last as long as your fly line. This gives the advantage of a smooth transition at the fly line to leader connection.
Sorry to be a little long winded an I hope the above information is not too confusing, and take this information as only my opinion and experience and not the gospel.