Muddler Minnow variations

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I have come to the conclusion that the muddler minnow is one of the most effective streamers out there. Well at least for me anyways and Im the type of person how is never happy with just what I have. I always have to try out the new things so I was wondering if anyone out there has tied any variations of the muddler ie color or substituting materials.
 

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Tyler,

Take a look at the basic Whitlock Sculpin pattern. I use this instead of the original style. Color is wide open, I've had good luck with purple and black dyed deer hair as well as standard brown.

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The original (Gapen's) 1936 pattern was really scruffy looking like this:

I've always been a fan of spuddlers too:



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I tie a lot of muddler variations,
A yellow marabou muddler is one of the best flies you can tie for smallmouth and I tie another marabou muddler variation with a pink wing and a purple head/collar for brook trout. Very effective.
The Kennebago Muddler is a fly from Maine that's basically a Hornberg in the back and a muddler up front. Two of my favorite flies combined. :thumbup:
And in the salt, the Tabory Snake Fly is a go-to for me this time of year.

Ostrich herl or saddle hackle tail
3 clumps of marabou tied on top of the hook shank
Muddler collar and head

Tabory snake fly


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I have come to the conclusion that the muddler minnow is one of the most effective streamers out there. Well at least for me anyways and Im the type of person how is never happy with just what I have. I always have to try out the new things so I was wondering if anyone out there has tied any variations of the muddler ie color or substituting materials.

there are any number of materials you could substitute out for the head. sculpin wool spun and clipped to shape, a dubbing brush the same way. you could "modernize" the wing and use some of that fancy UV fur they have out there or anything of the long synthetic materials that are on the market. the tail could become marabou to get more action. the body could be subbed out with some sparkly dubbing or chenille.

conceptually its a great fly; tail for movement. thin body and wing to create a profile and more movement. and a head with a larger profile to help shape that movement and continue the profile. if you look at it that way, the possibilities of materials, colors, and sizes for fish are endless.

-josh
 

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I've tied a variation based on the Muddler, but really looks nothing like the Gapen Muddler. Mine are about 6" to 8" long with a fur strip tail, rabbit usually, with other soft hair as a collar & a big spun deer hair head. It's intended as a bass fly, but imagine it could be a good trout streamer on some waters.

I still need to a get another hosting site for my pics, as the pic in on Photobucket. It's on my computer also, but can't figure a way to post it. :(
 

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I love to tie and fish steelhead muddler variations with various deer hair colors. It's a great waking pattern that draws aggressive grabs on the swing.
 

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I consider a zoo cougar to be a variation, and my personal favorite. One could argue that this is a completely different pattern but in my book it is a modified marabou muddler.

 

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I agree that the zoo cougar is essentially a muddler with a horizontal wing. The muddler template is certainly flexible and allows for plenty of flexibility and creativity. The Letort Hopper is essentially a dry muddler/zoo cougar


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I consider a zoo cougar to be a variation, and my personal favorite. One could argue that this is a completely different pattern but in my book it is a modified marabou muddler.
Don't tell Kelly Galloup...

What I'm hearing is basically anything with a spun deer hair head is Muddler variant. One of my favorite attractor dries is Turck's Tarantula, which basically a Muddler with a deer hair wing and rubber legs. But I don't consider is a variant.
 

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On a slight tangent, the first time I heard of the muddler minnow was in this article:

That was in this magazine:

Which I had purchased as an enthusiastic 12 year old just getting into fly fishing and the far-off, astronomically remote possibility of some day tying my own flies.


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On a slight tangent, the first time I heard of the muddler minnow was in this article:

That was in this magazine:

Which I had purchased as an enthusiastic 12 year old just getting into fly fishing and the far-off, astronomically remote possibility of some day tying my own flies.


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I was of about the same age when I discovered Emil, my barber, had stacks of contemporary, 1970's vintages, F&S and Outdoor Life magazines at his shop. I always hoped there were men and boys ahead of me waiting to get a haircut or a hot shave so that I could have more time to read about fighting off bears, catching a Musky, or heading off to the Northwest Territories in search of Arctic Grayling.
 

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Same for me and my dentist! I actually looked forward to my 6 month checkup because I got to learn all sorts of swell stuff in Sports Afield and Field and Stream. But back on track, here's a beautiful Dave Whitlock piece depicting some of the extended muddler family.



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I started late 80's,too. Every one of those "Ten Best" or "Dozen You Have to Have" articles included a Muddler Minnow. And I think I always have one in the box, but I've seldom fished it and never had much confidence in it.
 

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Another article that had a major influence on my younger brain. This one by Dave Whitlock in the July, 1994 issue of Fly Fisherman.

The articles in that publication used to be the main source of information on equipment, techniques, places, and fish. I still go through my treasured back issues for refreshers on some stuff.


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