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Default Study indicates Lake Huron's Chinook salmon fishery unlikely to recover

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A great little read....if you read the whole thing, you will see the cycle of human intervention and the resilance of Mother Nature and native species.
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Default Re: Study indicates Lake Huron's Chinook salmon fishery unlikely to recover

That was informative Dustin.
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Default Re: Study indicates Lake Huron's Chinook salmon fishery unlikely to recover

I found it very interesting...We induced a problem, then induced another problem but for sport to take care of the first problem...then we began to fix our problem on pollution, if in turn removed the food source for the first problem, which took care of the second problem, and now the native fish are coming back and the money spent on the second problem is now going to spent on natives!

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Default Re: Study indicates Lake Huron's Chinook salmon fishery unlikely to recover

Well, though I get how this is disheartening to much of the sportfishing economy, it does make me wonder if even sweating the natural demise of both an invasive and planted species isn't a very good thing.

I've long laughed about how folks around here speak of Alewives as though they're some critical "natural" resource. Seriously, I recall even hearing reports wherein Alewife density (as in more is better) was discussed as the primary concern, and other species, native and non as though secondary or less.

The above report reads to me like a natural order of things....Planted Salmon were brought in to wipe out the invasive Alewives due to the native Lake Trout being unable due to the invasive Sea Lamprey taking a toll on their numbers....Okay, so the Alewives are vanishing, fine, since that means an end to the Salmon as well, so be it. Now all we have to do is get rid of the remaining Lamprey........and the invasive mussels, and the....

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Default Re: Study indicates Lake Huron's Chinook salmon fishery unlikely to recover

The natural order, except, of course, for the clams that have filtered out the micro plankton needed for the rest of the food chain to survive. I'm amazed at how clear Lake Michigan is, and this is why. It's not a good thing, but I haven't heard of any methods to control them. Of course, and the article gives a perfect example, fixing one problem causes another.

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THe article brings back personal memories. My first job out of school, back in the 70's, was working at the Great Lakes Environmental Research Lab (GLERL/NOAA) in Ann Arbor collecting and analyzing zooplankton for a carbon uptake model of Lake Michigan.

All food chains rely on the uptake and transfer of available basic nutrients. Not much grows in distilled water. I've always found it interesting to think about how Mother Nature designed the Pacific Salmon. They are designed to die after spawning in order to supply nutrients to the otherwise rather nutrient sparse streams and rivers where they spawn. Without dead big salmon, there would be no live little salmon.

It really all comes down to the seasonings that are in the body of water soup. Too much/too little seasoning doesn't make for good soup. It needs to be "just right". Add too much, the water becomes polluted; too little, it is bland and sterile.

The problem is, the Great Lakes are never going to return to their natural state. The quality of water being collected by the watersheds which feed the lakes were originally seasoned by naturally occurring environments like forests, now the water gets collected off concrete and farm fields. It will never be the same. What goes on upstream directly determines what goes on downstream.
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Now all we have to do is get rid of the remaining Lamprey..
We could always capture and export them.
People in France and Spain pay through the nose for sea lampreys. I wish we could buy them at the fishmonger's they are delicious! In my humble opinion the best fish in the sea/river.
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