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Thread: Pike/Bass set up

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    Default Pike/Bass set up

    I was wondering if you guys could give me a lil help. I want to get out after some pike and bass with my 8wt. I tied up a bunch of big ol flies, streamers, popers, dahlbergh divers etc. and last time i was out I had a hell of a time casting them. The only thing i could think of is that maybe my leader was too long. What do you guys usually use , leader length and wt?

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    Default Re: Pike/Bass set up

    Sounds to me like you have too much leader or at least a leader not heavy enough in the butt.
    Bass and pike are not leader shy and I never use a leader longer than about 8' and with a popper I might go as short as 6'.
    For optimal transfer of energy your leader needs to have a long heavy butt,(about 60% of the total length) then a short mid section taper (20%) leading to the tippet(20%) A simple 8' hand tied leader might have 4' of 35# test mono, 2' of 25#, and 2' of 12#.
    In the wind and with monster flies, try a leader with a 70%/10%/20% taper


    Another issue you may have is that you're casting "too well".
    With large air resistant flies, you need to cast with a slower, open loop. Not the tight loop you may be accustom to with trout flies
    The bigger and more soggy the fly, the larger the loop
    The simpler the outfit, the more skill it takes to manage it, and the more pleasure one gets in his achievements. --- Horace Kephart

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    Default Re: Pike/Bass set up

    Good advice from Rip!
    Mark

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    Default Re: Pike/Bass set up

    Thanks rip im sure that will help tons!

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