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    Default North Fork Outdoors "Outlaw Renegade"

    I don't do this often, unless I think it's worth talking about. Most of you know I'm (along with Joni) a stillwater fisher. Love streams and rivers, but in the summer, or from ice off to hard deck it's stillwater fishing. You may also know that I have a Scadden (NFO) Outlaw X5 kickboat. Inflatable, framed unitrac kickboat, with a 5hp Nissan (Merc) outboard. Love that boat.



    But this review is about Going Commando!
    No motor, no frame, unbelievable stability, class V whitewater rated if you got the cojones. 9' long, 15" diameter tubes and tips the scale at 28 lb. with a weight capacity of 800 lb.




    No frame meaning it has no aluminum, steel, carbon fiber etc. frame. The 'toon is a single toon with two chambers to inflate. "U" shaped.


    The inflatable seat portion has a built in "pop off valve". Inflate it too much and the valve pops and releases the excess air. (It's also thermally welded to the toons.) I use a LVM pump to inflate the boat and top off the toon's with a K-Pump (3 psi) but I don't inflate the seat any more than that. That way it's perfect for my keister comfort. It's big enough you can straddle the seat and the back, stand and sight fish.
    The clip-on seat is called the F16, and it's like some of the stadium seats or kayak seats I've seen, but damn it's more comfy. It just clips to the built in straps on the inflatable seat.
    The boat is bladder-less, has thermally welded seams (not sewn) and the fabric is pvc coated- I'm not sure of the weight. It also has extra "skid" plates- of the same material on the bottom of the toon in the right places. So if you drag your boat, or beach it, you're utilizing the skid plates. And from what Dave told me, they're replaceable if you get too careless.
    The oar system has integrated oar locks and NFO calls it 'rack and pinion' although I'm not familiar with this type of 'rack and pinion'.
    It's easy to row, and the oars that came with it are lightweight Alcoa 6061 T65 2 piece aluminum oars 5' long. Myself, I want some longer oars with a larger paddle area. the boat has a built in oar keeper on each side that the oars clip to and they stay out of your way. The way the oar lock is set up, the oars fold up against the side of the boat and stay there anyway, but I can see where the locks come in very handy. Just a little something extra that's nice to have.
    The side bags are insulated, pretty much water proof and double as rod holders. They hold quite a bit of what ever you want them too. I usually take 6 fly boxes, and extra spools of sinking lines with me. A couple of drinks, cameras, GPS, walkie talkie, spools of leader/tippet material, munchies etc. It all fits in these bags. They're pretty much the standard Scadden side bag that he's had forever it seems, and I can't find a whole lot wrong with them. I guess it's a '' If it ain't broke, don't fix it" thing.

    Easy set up. It takes less than 3 minutes to inflate and in 5 minutes you're on the water. Clip on the side bags, clip on the seat, the foot bar, and put your rods in the side pouch's of the bags and add water.
    This boat is very easy to kick around. According to my GPS, casually kicking I'm averaging .8 mph. Not bad. Very easy to move on the water and just as easy to turn. When the wind kicked up, it didn't take much to keep myself in place.
    When I'm using my X5, I usually (99% of the time) wear hip waders. The first time I tried the Renegade I wasn't sure of where my arse was going to be in relation to the surface of the water, so I put my chest waders on. From now on it's the hippers. I figure the bottom of the seat is at least 4+" above the water, and if my butt does get wet, it's going to be some storm that I'm fishing in.
    Well that's about it for this time. Just one little thing extra-
    It'll deflate and you can pack it into an airline specific travel bag- about the size of a standard suitcase or a 36" duffel (that's why the 2 pc. 5' oars) Take it on the airplane with you or in a rental car.
    I don't work for Dave Scadden or NFO. I've had a lot of NFO kickboats and tubes over the years, and they just keep getting better. I've owned and fished out of different manufactures toon's and tubes, but I have to say I haven't found anything that can match them, let alone better them. They do cost more than the average kickboat, and in my eyes, well worth it. If you stillwater fish a lot, look into them at Northfork Outdoors index or call Dave or Larry Tullis 801-392-5404 and talk to them. Tell them I sent you.
    They're made/built in Ogden, Utah, USA- just 35 miles north of me. Lifetime guaranteed. And damn fun to fish out of.

    Edit- November 7-Had the boat on the water now 4 times now. Yesterday at Strawberry from 8:30 am to 2:30. Couldn't believe my butt wasn't sore or my back and I can't believe how much I like this boat.

    So here's some more pictures on the driveway.



    Clip on the F16 seat



    Oar locks and oar clip




    Install the side bags- insulated, water resistant and you can use the pockets for a rod holder (works good too) .






    Clip on the foot bar- I put a couple links of chain on to lengthen it out. Average height people won't have a problem with the stock set up. I use S biners.


    That's pretty much done. These next ones are the additions- anchor mount made by Scotty and a rod holder by Scotty. The side bags hold a rod in each one, but this way I can have a rod right up front to get to. It's out of the way of the oars when I row. AND it's pretty easy to row this thing.




    Chain anchor


    Rod holder


    All done- quick set up and on the water in a flash.






    Alan/mojo
    Last edited by mojo; 11-07-2010 at 06:01 PM.
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    Default Re: North Fork Outdoors "Outlaw Renegade"

    Mojo: Great review on the Outlaw Renegade! Thanks!

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    Default Re: North Fork Outdoors "Outlaw Renegade"

    Nice review.

    I have a question regarding the X5, if you dont mind....

    How well does it perform in your opinion in waters that are moving? If you have had it in such that is. I am very intrigued by this water craft and i can see myself using it mainly on small lakes. However, we have our share of good trout water in good sized rivers. Just wondering what i could expect. Thnx

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    Default Re: North Fork Outdoors "Outlaw Renegade"

    Nice review of the Outlaw Renegade. There are a lot of things that I like on it. First one that size that I've seen with oar locks. The pop off valve could save my bacon (six of us got out of the lake last Sat. for a BBQ; the sun came out; we got back to six tubes ready to burst). Good looking too.

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    Default Re: North Fork Outdoors "Outlaw Renegade"

    Quote Originally Posted by vans View Post
    Nice review.

    I have a question regarding the X5, if you dont mind....

    How well does it perform in your opinion in waters that are moving? If you have had it in such that is. I am very intrigued by this water craft and i can see myself using it mainly on small lakes. However, we have our share of good trout water in good sized rivers. Just wondering what i could expect. Thnx
    Here you go. The video is better than I can answer.
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhCdtEPc_s8"]YouTube - Dave Scadden Outlaw X5[/ame]
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    Default Re: North Fork Outdoors "Outlaw Renegade"

    Quote Originally Posted by mojo View Post
    Here you go. The video is better than I can answer.

    Sweet, thanks.

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    The video is indeed helpful, but the horseshoe shape makes me wonder...

    I did a float with a buddy of mine recently who has a Watermaster, and one thing I noticed was that given the "0" shape of the thing, one can take rapids either via either end and it works equally well.

    I'd think that when running a 4' wide horseshoe through rock gardens would make it easy to hang one of the tips and get spun around. What's your take on that?

    It seems to me like this is a great craft, and substantially cheaper than a Watermaster. I just see that as a potential shortcoming.
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    Default Re: North Fork Outdoors "Outlaw Renegade"

    Did you have to beef up the transom for that 5 horse motor on the other boat? I have an Out Cast 13' rig and use a 3.3 merc on it and always worry about my factory mount. I keep a line tied to the front handle when I'm on a lake just for security.

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    Default Re: North Fork Outdoors "Outlaw Renegade"

    Quote Originally Posted by BigCliff View Post
    The video is indeed helpful, but the horseshoe shape makes me wonder...

    I did a float with a buddy of mine recently who has a Watermaster, and one thing I noticed was that given the "0" shape of the thing, one can take rapids either via either end and it works equally well.

    I'd think that when running a 4' wide horseshoe through rock gardens would make it easy to hang one of the tips and get spun around. What's your take on that?

    It seems to me like this is a great craft, and substantially cheaper than a Watermaster. I just see that as a potential shortcoming.
    It's wider than a Watermaster. You can use the boat any way you want. It's rocker is made for rivers- you go down open end or closed end.
    Here's another video. I don't think you'd have any problem of getting spun around unless you weren't looking where you're going. This is the Rampage which is the next size up. I would think the Renegade would fish and float the same.
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/user/davescadden#p/u/6/NPmE7hNDC9E"]YouTube - davescadden's Channel[/ame]

    Ard, I bolted on a 2x4 across the back of the deck and some 1" aluminum straps on each side of where the motor is bolted to the center of the deck(used some pressure treated wood from Lowe's and got the strap there too.) This picture is the small deck I have. I have the "mega" deck now which is 7" wider than this deck. 3 Scotty rod holders and an Scotty anchor lock. The anchor lock at the top of the picture is a "strap around the toon anchor. I like the Scotty set up because of the versatility.
    Anchor lock, rod holders, extensions etc. all use the same base.
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    I updated the post with som more pictures.
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