Thanks Thanks:  0
Likes Likes:  18
Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 24
  1. #11
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Whitefish, MT
    Posts
    215

    Default Re: Deer Hair Caddis vs. Elk Hair Caddis?

    Deer tail hair is not hollow!! So when you buy bucktail, which is awesome for streamers, it is solid and will not float.

    Ok, how to tell the difference, not sure. I trust my friends that kill them that they know the difference and I trust the local shop. But an older guy I use to tie with said that normally deer hair is tri colored, but elk is not....plus elk skin is thicker.

    But if you have two pieces side by side...you will see one is definitely thicker.

  2. #12
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Montenegro
    Posts
    1,093

    Default Re: Deer Hair Caddis vs. Elk Hair Caddis?

    I thought that bucktail is from some cattle

  3. Likes dean_mt liked this post
  4. #13
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Akron Ohio (don't let that fool you)
    Posts
    1,987

    Default Re: Deer Hair Caddis vs. Elk Hair Caddis?

    Quote Originally Posted by mtboiler View Post
    Deer tail hair is not hollow!!
    Not entirely true, I have quite a few tails where the hair at the base and alot of the top side hair is hollow. I wouldn't use it for a wing but for poppers or muddlers it works fine.
    Oh I live to be the ruler of life not a slave

  5. #14
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Whitefish, MT
    Posts
    215

    Default Re: Deer Hair Caddis vs. Elk Hair Caddis?

    Quote Originally Posted by madjoni View Post
    I thought that bucktail is from some cattle
    Kiptail...which is almost impossible to find in the real form...is now actually calf tail...I think it was originally a african antilope of some kind. Now when you buy Kiptails you always get calf tail. I could be wrong on the bucktail...but I was pretty sure it was solid. Either way...it works awesome for streamers.
    Last edited by mtboiler; 12-14-2012 at 11:54 PM.

  6. #15
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Akron Ohio (don't let that fool you)
    Posts
    1,987

    Default Re: Deer Hair Caddis vs. Elk Hair Caddis?

    Its on those big gnarly tails, the ones that are full of crinkly hairs. The smaller tails, better for streamers, are mostly if not entirely solid.
    Oh I live to be the ruler of life not a slave

  7. #16
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Montenegro
    Posts
    1,093

    Default Re: Deer Hair Caddis vs. Elk Hair Caddis?

    Quote Originally Posted by mtboiler View Post
    Kiptail...which is almost impossible to find in the real form...is now actually calf tail...I think it was originally a african antilope of some kind. Now when you buy Kiptails you always get calf tail. I could be wrong on the bucktail...but I was pretty sure it was solid. Either way...it works awesome for streamers.
    Thanks!
    But that still prove me that companies are lying big time

  8. Likes brucerducer liked this post
  9. #17
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Western Montana
    Posts
    4,646

    Default Re: Deer Hair Caddis vs. Elk Hair Caddis?

    Quote Originally Posted by madjoni View Post
    Second this and just to add hair of all kinds of deer all over the globe have hollow hair
    I always thought them Europeeean deers had solid hairs!

  10. Likes madjoni, brucerducer liked this post
  11. #18
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Montenegro
    Posts
    1,093

    Default Re: Deer Hair Caddis vs. Elk Hair Caddis?

    Quote Originally Posted by dean_mt View Post
    I always thought them Europeeean deers had solid hairs!
    hahaha..maybe but it is hollow
    And in any time i will change all skin of European deer for 2 by 2 inches of elk hair

  12. Likes brucerducer liked this post
  13. #19

    Default Re: Deer Hair Caddis vs. Elk Hair Caddis?

    I use Elk,Mule Deer,White Tail ,Pronghorn and even Moose for tying various bugs and streamers...especially caddis imitations...used them a lot in early summer on the S Platte...all are hollow (body fur any way)I think a lot depends on what time of year animal was harvested(big dif between September and November), part of the hide and color you are looking for...

    when you buy the $$ little baggies its pretty much a **** shoot ... I'm also a hunter...so this is one area that there is no shortage of...anyone that has noticed a tie getting saturated sooner than an other knows what I mean, that some floats better or worse...I like to clip hair as close to hide for final length I want...and even dust them w/ floatant just for good measure...

    an elk or deer hide has enough fur to start and run fly tying business...

    this thread caught my eye special...I usually am quiet...but my preference is tying with all materials I have either myself or friends harvest...lately I just buy hooks and thread...after learning how to use a stomach pump I have been tying all natural color stuff to match what I have found in trout bellies...never seen any flash being digested yet...

    sure there is a place for using colors etc...but its been fun for a few years focusing on the natural ties...

    here is a "spey" fly tied w/ Mule Deer, Elk, Moose , Buffalo ,Gadwall & Wild turkey...



    great thread...t

    ted...trout bum/wandering monk
    public water 20"er
    public land pope & young

    Breac à linne, slat à coille is fiadh à f́reach - mèirle às nach do ghabh gàidheal riamh nàire.
    a fish from the river, a rod from the woods and a stag from the mountain , thefts ne'er a Gael was ashamed
    ...and old gaelic proverb...

    my blog & website
    http://wmflyrodco.com/

  14. Likes brucerducer liked this post
  15. #20
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Akron Ohio (don't let that fool you)
    Posts
    1,987

    Default Re: Deer Hair Caddis vs. Elk Hair Caddis?

    Totally off subject here but Silvertip you got some interesting wraps on your cane there care to show it more?
    Oh I live to be the ruler of life not a slave

Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Fishing Flies (6) Elk Hair Caddis
    By Ebay USA in forum Fishing Flies
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 04-12-2012, 02:55 AM
  2. Fishing Flies (6) Elk Hair Caddis
    By Ebay USA in forum Fishing Flies
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 04-09-2012, 01:10 AM
  3. Fishing Flies (6) Elk Hair Caddis
    By Ebay USA in forum Fishing Flies
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 04-03-2012, 09:10 PM
  4. Fishing Flies (6) Elk Hair Caddis
    By Ebay USA in forum Fishing Flies
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 03-31-2012, 08:10 PM
  5. olive elk hair caddis.
    By GeorgeMcFly in forum Share Patterns
    Replies: 26
    Last Post: 12-22-2008, 10:38 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •