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    Default Over lining???

    It seems that many of us are over lining our rods. My self included. If we are fishing a rod supposedly designed for a 9 line but we are using a 10 line on it; are we fishing a 9wt or a 10wt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ditz View Post
    It seems that many of us are over lining our rods. My self included. If we are fishing a rod supposedly designed for a 9 line but we are using a 10 line on it; are we fishing a 9wt or a 10wt?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ditz View Post
    It seems that many of us are over lining our rods. My self included. If we are fishing a rod supposedly designed for a 9 line but we are using a 10 line on it; are we fishing a 9wt or a 10wt?
    I personally never over line, but underline once in a while. However, this is based on the stated rating of the rod and the line as well.The problem with that is that rods are almost never rated as what they really are, and the AFTMA system of rating lines tells you next to nothing if you can carry more than 30' of line in the air. The best thing to do if you really want to know what you are dealing with is to use the common cents system and see what your rod really is. Find out how long the head is on your line and weigh that. Also weigh the first 30' in case they lied about the rating on your line as well.

    How far do you generally need to cast? What lines are you using and on what rods?

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    This topic come up ALL the time. I overline my surf rods but not to get more distance. Under good conditions I cast further with the correct lines. Overlining gets me the same distance under adverse conditions like heavy wind or nasty surf when I barely have time to get off one false cast before a wave smacks me silly. I can feel the rod stressing and my casts aren't perfect form but water load, one backcast and haul like a mofo and I'm back in the water.

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    ditz... I feel your pain. Like most northeastern SW flyfishermen, I overline as well.
    The best thing to do if you really want to know what you're dealing with is to try different lines and see what suits the conditions and size flies you use.
    I have an 8wt that takes an 11wt line, but I also have another 8wt that works well with a 7wt.
    If you live within driving distance of southern RI, there's a "rod tune-up" biannually in Narragansett to determine what line works best for you.
    In the salt I normally use lines from 9-12wt depending on what I want the line to do. The rod that I'll cast those lines with is a lesser consideration.
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    I guess I was not very clear. I recently purchased a 9' 7wt rod to fill the gap between my 5 and 9wt rods. I ended up putting a 8wt SW taper SA line on the rod and it casts fine. I tried my SW 9wt on the rod and it worked OK as well. I do intend to continue to use the 8wt. I would also like to try a 7wt SW taper but at this point I believe that "I" would not care for how the rod would load with a 7wt and the line would go unused.

    The question is " Do I catch a fish on a 7wt or an 8wt rod"? It really makes little difference to me personally but ethicly in conversation with others I have no wish to lie.

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    By the manufacturer rating it would still be a 7 wt, and the line would still be an 8 wt. By other standards, or by actual testing, who know's what you might call it! If you were reselling either, I'm sure you would state each as rated by their respective manufacturers, although you may also ethically include personal observation of how each performed for you. Perhaps you wouldn't.

    Seems to me if it's a matter of conscience or consistency, then, when in conversations, simply state it's a 7 wt rod with an 8 wt line. Both would certainly be true!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ditz View Post
    The question is " Do I catch a fish on a 7wt or an 8wt rod"? It really makes little difference to me personally but ethicly in conversation with others I have no wish to lie.
    Uh, so you think maybe overlining your 7 wt turns it into an 8 wt? That's a new one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigjim5589 View Post
    By the manufacturer rating it would still be a 7 wt, and the line would still be an 8 wt. By other standards, or by actual testing, who know's what you might call it! If you were reselling either, I'm sure you would state each as rated by their respective manufacturers, although you may also ethically include personal observation of how each performed for you. Perhaps you wouldn't.

    Seems to me if it's a matter of conscience or consistency, then, when in conversations, simply state it's a 7 wt rod with an 8 wt line. Both would certainly be true!
    Oh, ok. Now I get the question. The fight is in the rod, not the line. You caught the fish on whatever WT the rod is rated for.
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    I don't over line my 4, 6, or 8, but I overline my 2. I decided to overline my 2 because most of my shots with that rod are pretty short and I figured it'd make life easier. I have never casted a DT2 or WF2 line on it so I don't know if it's necessary.

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