Well Joni, I dont like the collar. For pike the colored top (grey, green, and I have some blue also), and flashy/shinny gets them moving. I just have not found a hook long enough with out going too a 8/0, though I still may. The bad thing about the shagg is that it dont hold up worth a *$%@. I had to add glue to it to keep it from falling apart. The Zonker stripps I find much easier to tie with. The green though proved to be a fave nad after adding a coat of fish'n glue to it, held up very well. Since the mylar is somewhat transparent, I add dubbing or wrap a pipe cleaner around to add extra color to it. The pics dont shot it very well (phone cam) but each are a differant color. I find the pipe cleaners add much more color. Needless to say, it is a good pattern and I plan on makeing a few larger ones for later. I though do like to add a but of extra flash and color on the back end under the xs bit of strip. And insted of the collar, I add eyes.