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    I just started fly fishing for stripers on the upper cheasapeake. I use a 9wt 9'6" rod. I was told it would be better to hook up a 3'section of 15 or 20lb test
    to the floating or sinking line. Guy said it would be easer to cast than when using a regular 9' leader and tippet. it's suppose to turn the fly over easer.
    Has anbody used this before. pros and cons please.

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    I'm thinkin' that there some confusion here
    I tie my own leaders for stripers and they're usually in 3 sections and most of the time I'll use an 8' leader with a floating or intermediate line. That keeps the leader knot out side of the tip-top when landing fish. For poppers I use a straight 6' piece of 16-20# mono. The only time that I find longer leaders necessary is on the flats.

    Trilene Big Game mono is a good material to use as well as Andie and Climax among others
    A 60/20/20% formula is best unless you're fishing huge flies in high wind when a 70/10/20% formula will turn over the fly better.

    For a 9wt rod I'll start with 4' of 40#test, then 2' of 25#, and 2' of 16#
    It's really that simple
    Last edited by Rip Tide; 03-25-2010 at 07:26 PM.
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    Hey riptide and anyone else that ties leaders.


    My question is, do you like to tie your own leader or is it ok to use a leader that is storebought? I ask because there are some really good leaders that are designed to be used alone without tippet as they have their own built in. I'm talking salt water. What in your opinion is the better way? Thanks in advance.
    After getting up at 5.00am every morning for work , what makes a man get up at 4.00am on saturdays? must be SOMETHING in the water, huh? Let,s go fishing!!!!!!

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    It's WAY less expensive to tie you're own leaders. Also, you're going to
    cut that tippet section down eventually, so you have to tie one on, or throw
    out the remaining leader. I'd go with RipTide's suggestion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by troutfishr View Post
    My question is, do you like to tie your own leader or is it ok to use a leader that is storebought? I ask because there are some really good leaders that are designed to be used alone without tippet as they have their own built in. I'm talking salt water. What in your opinion is the better way? Thanks in advance.
    You could use storebought of course, but it's not like you're buying an entire leader kit.
    We're talking the equivalent of 3 tippet spools and only a couple of knots. And when you fish in the salt, you'll soon find that tying good knots is so important that tying a couple extra will not make any difference to you at all.
    You'll be well practiced
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    Thanks for the advise. I usualy use a pre made leader and tippet. But i like the idea of making one up. I think from what your saying, i am using to light a tippet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hunter1 View Post
    I just started fly fishing for stripers on the upper cheasapeake. I use a 9wt 9'6" rod. I was told it would be better to hook up a 3'section of 15 or 20lb test
    to the floating or sinking line. Guy said it would be easer to cast than when using a regular 9' leader and tippet. it's suppose to turn the fly over easer.
    Has anbody used this before. pros and cons please.
    I think maybe the guy meant that with a sinking line you should use 3' of straight 15-20# test..... that's true

    You could also use a single 8' (or so) piece of straight mono instead of a tapered leader with a floating or intermediate line too. Many guys around here use straight 20# only. It's not like trout fishing, for the most part the big flies will turn over with out using a tapered leader and stripers are not normally too leader shy.
    I went that route for a while, but went back to the basic 3 part taper.
    Works better for me.

    ---------- Post added at 02:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:34 PM ----------

    I was talking to a guy last month who was telling me that in a situation where it was rocky and you normally would tie on a shock tippet, he just used a straight piece of 30# test for a leader instead. The part that threw me was that he would purposely tie an overhand knot in the leader to weaken it
    It took me a while to wrap my little brain around that until I realized that the 30#test was not needed (or even wanted) for breaking strength. It was only for abrasion resistance. Putting the overhand knot in weakened the leader enough to guarantee that it would part first.
    Not something that would occur to me but apparently even the 30# tippet does not deter a striper.
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    Troutfisher,

    I used to tie all my own leaders for both salt and fresh water. Now for very shittish salt water fish, I buy tapered leaders and add a long tippet section.

    The reason is that this way, I have only one small knot disturbing or catching the turtle grass or bay grass ahead of the fly. I assume you probably will be sight fishing for reds where you are, so I would try both methods and see which works the best for you.

    From what little red fishing I've done, they don't seem very shy to me, but I'm sure there are conditions when this is not the case.

    Cheers,
    Jim

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