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    How would one compare the actions of these two rods in a 9' 5wt model.
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    Scroll down in this forum to Sage One Test Casting and Yellowstone Mini-Shootout threads. Much has been written about both of these fine rods. They are aimed at the same medium to large trout river, technical presentation type and, if that is who you are, you must cast them side by side to decide. Nothing anyone writes is a substitute for that exercize. And add Zenith to your list.

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    Mind you my answer revolves around 5 minutes of using both in a 4wt. I have a Z-Axis and my friend has a b2x. We did a 5 minute swap and he said he liked the Z better and so did I. It was a little windy and we were needing 40-50 foot casts where we were. So the faster (faster being relative here) Z helped in that situation.

    But it is like asking if you like the Porsche or BMW they both are super nice
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    B2Mx - Ultrafast taper, stiff butt section. Your timing has to be on to cast this rod. The only application that I would use this rod is for throwing streamers with heavy sink tips.

    Z-Axis - Fast. Very soft tip. For a fast rod, it is very forgiving. It is a great all around rod.

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    I would like to say something to defend Wiston Biix 4 wt 9 foot rod, which is one of my shining armors.

    First time I struggled with it on a windy day. But after I slow down even in the windy condition, I can feel rod loading with a little bit of a longer pause in your back casting, and it shoots line like dream and present a fly beautifully.

    Do not get me wrong. I really love Sage rod. I consider Winston as a sports car with a stick shift. The transition takes a bit longer time than automatic. But After the gear is shifted and the gas on, your car (or fly line) cuts through the wind.
    Last edited by texastroutbum; 09-07-2011 at 12:45 PM.

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    Just a reminder: The Winston in question is the B2MX, not the BiiX. I have zero experience with any of the Winston boron rods, but will say that the Z-Axis is dandy. I'm certain MP's comments on spot on: he sells them both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by texastroutbum View Post
    I would like to say something to defend Wiston Biix 4 wt 9 foot rod, which is one of my shining armors.

    First time I struggled with it on a windy day. But after I slow down even in the windy condition, I can feel rod loading with a little bit of a longer pause in your back casting, and it shoots line like dream and present a fly beautifully.

    Do not get me wrong. I really love Sage rod. I consider Winston as a sports car with a stick shift. The transition takes a bit longer time than automatic. But After the gear is shifted and the gas on, your car (or fly line) cuts through the wind.
    Love the stick shift analogy.

    High end rods to me are lie the gun world. Your either a "glock guy" Smith guy" "1911 guy" . There all great it just preference.

    I betcha $5 if someone lets me fish their Biix all day I would like it
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    Quote Originally Posted by barham View Post
    How would one compare the actions of these two rods in a 9' 5wt model.
    Thanks,
    barham
    I have both the BIIx and the BIIMx and have to say, I reach for the BIIx far more frequently.
    I like to think I know how to cast and how to evaluate rods but even between the two I just can't consider the BBMx an ultra-fast rod. It acts like a 5 weight when using a 5 weight line. The ultra fast rods I tried needed to be over-lined one or two line weights to act their rated weight.

    If you can't cast both rods how about telling is your intended use for them? That might help narrow things down a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoscaPescador View Post
    B2Mx - Ultrafast taper, stiff butt section. Your timing has to be on to cast this rod. The only application that I would use this rod is for throwing streamers with heavy sink tips.

    Z-Axis - Fast. Very soft tip. For a fast rod, it is very forgiving. It is a great all around rod.
    Mosca...I'm curious. Hope you get a chance to check this out and respond. I got a chance to cast the BIIMX in the 9'5wt. I own and fish the BIIx all of the time and I didnt think that it was drastically different. I just felt that it had a little more umph and was a bit stiffer throughout than the biix. I just tied on a big size 10 dry and I had absolutely NO problem casting this at targets. I don't consider myself a great caster, but I'm not a terrible caster either, but there was no learning curver or adjustment needed when I picked this rod up. I agree with jackster; I tried it with a normal 5wt line and it cast like a faster 5wt rod.

    If you (or anyone else) has more experience than my 5 minute test cast please give me a little review if you get a chance. How does this rod work under a variety of circumstances?

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