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    Default Re: Is There a Real Advantage to Longer Rods?

    While in the tailwaters I fish, my standard go-to rod is my Sage SP 8'9" 5-weight, I also use my Sage Z-Axis 11 foot 7 weight occasionally, mainly because it's a lot easier to "high-stick" mend and in "big water" with wind, I can also get a lot more distance.
    On the whole, I'd rather be in Wyoming . . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by pdq 5oh View Post
    When I bought a rod for steelhead, the shop guy told me the 9'6" rod would be more tiring to cast over the course of a day, as opposed to a 9' rod. I took his advice and got the 9'er.
    But would 6" really make a difference? I think if you have a reel to balance out the rod, that six inches wouldn't be much of a factor in my eyes.
    Swirlchaser said The problem with longer rods when you are wading is that standing waist deep trying to land a fish with a 10' rod can be an adventure. Between dealing with the surf, and the fish I wouldn't want to add a longer rod to the equation.
    That I would think would be major reason for staying away from a longer rod in saltwater.
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    Fishing the surf is my favorite form of fly fishing.
    When you fish water such as in this photo with a floating line, a longer rod makes a huge difference.
    Wading is impossible
    The extra reach of a 10' or longer rod is needed to lift your line over the breaking waves.
    With a shorter rod, the breakers would grab your line and wrap it around your legs in seconds, dragging your fly through the sand. You might as well go home.
    As I stated earlier, in non-surf situations, I fish a 9 footer, but I've learned over the years that in the surf, a long rod is better.
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    Thanks Again Guys!

    Looking at those breakers makes me wonder about an 11 foot rod .

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    I have a Greys Platinum X that is 9'6" and I use it for surf fishing sockeye & silver salmon. I believe the extra 6" makes it easier to roll another cast over the waves like Rip Tide said. I have also used 9'er's for this and the 9'6" is better.

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    I fish the surf in NJ off of Sandy Hook & the surrounding area beaches & once or twice LBI.. I usually carry a 9' 8wt but I always throw a 9', 10wt in the car for bigger stuff or heavier winds. I don't propose to be the expert on saltwater as I usually turn right & head to my favorite trout stream but I do occasionally fish the salt. Most of the guys I fish with in the salt use 9' 8wt. rods most of the time. & they recommended the 10 wt spare. I just don't think 6" 's will make much difference either way as long as you balance the setup. I would advise getting a 4 pc for ease of transport.

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    My favorite rod (till stolen) was a TRIDENT TL 9'6" 6 weight. Not tiring at all because it was so easy to cast.
    I since bout a 10' 5 & 8 weight and love it, and more recent a 12' 6/7 and a 13' 7/8.

    Like Mojo said, balance it with the right reel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rip Tide View Post

    Fishing the surf is my favorite form of fly fishing.
    When you fish water such as in this photo with a floating line, a longer rod makes a huge difference.
    Wading is impossible
    The extra reach of a 10' or longer rod is needed to lift your line over the breaking waves.
    With a shorter rod, the breakers would grab your line and wrap it around your legs in seconds, dragging your fly through the sand. You might as well go home.
    As I stated earlier, in non-surf situations, I fish a 9 footer, but I've learned over the years that in the surf, a long rod is better.
    Few questions for you Riptide (actually a lot) I've never been to the east or west coast to check out fishing like this:
    What kind of set up do you use for fishing surf like this? Rod, reel, lines, flies? Do people use spey outfits to fish this?
    How far out are the majority of the fish (from shore)?
    How big is the wind factor? And how big generally are the waves?
    So you cast out and then- what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mojo View Post
    So you cast out and then- what?
    LOL!!!! I sense a bit of humor in the question, but it's a good one .

    So the consensus is.....well....there is no consensus . I'm still young and athletic, but after tearing into my son's 1996 Caprice brakes and
    suspension this past weekend, leaves me thinking Joni's 9' 6" 6wt might be
    friendly. I almost bought a SW version of a couple manufacturer's
    6wt's, but I don't know much about saltwater fishing (beyond fluke in
    Barnegat Bay, NJ). Those we fished for with light spinning gear, and 6lb test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frankb2 View Post
    lol!!!! those we fished for with light spinning gear, and 6lb test.
    what is that>!!!!!?????????? ;-)

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