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    Default Re: Yeah It's Heavy but Man Does It Ever Cast!

    Noon as I type (well, 1202) and blue skies, already 80 degrees on my front porch. Odd part (Fall has fell?), at 0430, it was 47 degrees. Had to close up the house and turn on the furnace for a few minutes.
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    Default Re: Yeah It's Heavy but Man Does It Ever Cast!

    the first photo should be in a magazine..

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    Ard,Even though I've never tried Spey Casting with a Switch or Spey Rod,I've watched a few Methods Of Spey Casting on You-Tube,seen it Done,tried it with my10ft Rod with A switch Line.
    I hadn't heard or saw The Perry Poke until a couple of weeks ago I watched a guy on our Local Lake,I was told he was doing The Perry Poke.
    I agree with Fred you have a Nice Cannon,which is capable of Mighty Distances,by the way what size Projectiles can it throw with The 770 Grain Line,as I imagine,as you mentioned it does it quite easily ??
    Brian.

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    Default Re: Yeah It's Heavy but Man Does It Ever Cast!

    Quote Originally Posted by Liphookedau View Post
    I agree with Fred you have a Nice Cannon,which is capable of Mighty Distances,by the way what size Projectiles can it throw with The 770 Grain Line,as I imagine,as you mentioned it does it quite easily ??
    Brian.
    Brian, at 770 grains you could tie feathers on a Horse Shoe that would fit a Clydesdale. Just don't let that thing clip you on the back of the head.



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    Quote Originally Posted by fredaevans View Post
    Noon as I type (well, 1202) and blue skies, already 80 degrees on my front porch. Odd part (Fall has fell?), at 0430, it was 47 degrees. Had to close up the house and turn on the furnace for a few minutes.
    Part that's odd is it's 21 degrees warmer this morning. Go figure??
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    Default Re: Yeah It's Heavy but Man Does It Ever Cast!

    While I've never cast a true "long belly" so this should be taken as pure speculation but I got alot of guff from folks when I said I want to fish a 10wt DT off a 10wt rod employing spey casts alot said it won't load. Then I figured out why I like heavier rods over the light stuff, a heavy rod has the mass to almost load itself and I'd bet if you were to exaggerate your back stroke when forming the D-loop that rod will fire the 775 like it was shot from a gun. The only downside is you will need alot more room to form the D-loop.
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    Default Re: Yeah It's Heavy but Man Does It Ever Cast!

    Quote Originally Posted by Hardyreels View Post
    Hi Larry,

    The really cool thing is, there is no back cast. Zero, nada, none........... You can shoot a fly 80' out onto a river with a high bank and brush right behind you. It is more relaxing than hauling line overhead all day. With the amount of time it takes between casts and the fact that you don't do overhead casting, the weight (a tad over 2 pounds for rod, reel, line, and backing) is not really an issue. You just kiinda cradle the rod in the crook of your right arm while you fish out the cast and when you have to reposition the fly, you use both hands. Pretty cool stuff,

    Ard[COLOR="Silver"]
    Ard: It certainly looks like a lot of fun on the videos that I have watched, one of these days I have got to give it a try. I definitely like the idea that you don't have to have any space for a backcast, lots of places down here that I could put that to use.

    Larry
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    Default Re: Yeah It's Heavy but Man Does It Ever Cast!

    When it comes to 'space behind the caster' there are many different styles of casting. I don't believe I have a style, whatever it is that I know about this came from using the rods to fish. I've seen people who use a significant amount of space to the rear when casting, I have tried this and more often than not I end up with my fly striking the shoreline rocks and breaking a hook. It is because of this I seldom allow the line or fly to venture behind me more than a couple of feet.

    I believe that these rods and lines would be beneficial for fishing streamers no matter where you are provided you have a big river. They do make the simple task of netting a fish rather difficult though. Due to the length of the rod you either need to bring (drag) a fish to shore (big ones) or you must find a safe rest for the rod and then handle the line / leader to contain the fish. This can cause some pretty hectic and disorganized moments until you get a system down for the actual landing / netting of a fish.

    I will also say that my few experiences trying to use these from a boat have been less than fun. They are best utilized when wading and you can stay close to shore rather than wade to the middle of the river because of rod length and casting ability of the rod. It takes a lot more line & fly management / control when fishing longer casts but you catch on quick as to what you must do to keep the fly in the action.

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    Default Re: Yeah It's Heavy but Man Does It Ever Cast!

    I have a Grey's 15 footer that I bought last year for spring Stripers in the rivers. I haven't even gotten in wet yet, I think I'm affraid of it.
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    Default Re: Yeah It's Heavy but Man Does It Ever Cast!

    Hi Marco,

    This is pretty common I think, I had my first rod nearly a year before I gave it a whirl. Part of the fear is that of something new and another aspect is that since it's new we figure we will struggle. Nothing much worse than struggling with a fly rod except doing so with an audience.

    For overhead casting like you would do for striper's they take some getting used to. If you will be stripping the fly back then a shooting head in the 25 - 28 foot range will do nicely for you. Since you use a stripping basket you can keep a pile of running line in the basket and mastering 28' of line in an overhead cast will be simple. I just wait for the tug on the back cast and then launch it. Because the rod is 15' you don't have to worry about the back cast dropping into the water even if you wait for that tug.

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    Default Re: Yeah It's Heavy but Man Does It Ever Cast!

    Quote Originally Posted by Hardyreels View Post
    Hi Marco,

    This is pretty common I think, I had my first rod nearly a year before I gave it a whirl. Part of the fear is that of something new and another aspect is that since it's new we figure we will struggle. Nothing much worse than struggling with a fly rod except doing so with an audience.

    For overhead casting like you would do for striper's they take some getting used to. If you will be stripping the fly back then a shooting head in the 25 - 28 foot range will do nicely for you. Since you use a stripping basket you can keep a pile of running line in the basket and mastering 28' of line in an overhead cast will be simple. I just wait for the tug on the back cast and then launch it. Because the rod is 15' you don't have to worry about the back cast dropping into the water even if you wait for that tug.
    I overhead cast my switch rods all the time but my plan was to actually learn to spey cast. The rivers don't have the same conditions that the surf has. In the rivers I find myself casting slightly upstream (with obsticles behind me) and dead drifting the fly. Lots of stripping with very little time in the "hot zone". I figured a Spey cast would make this situation a lot easier but I haven't even attempted a spey cast yet. I'll have to ruN down to the lake and get some practice.
    Last edited by swirlchaser; 09-17-2012 at 03:08 PM.
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