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Thread: The "Fishing" casts

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    South Texas

    Default The "Fishing" casts

    Hey Doug,

    I would like for our cold-water enthusiasts to get some expert info on the trick casts that allow the expert 10% to catch 90% of the trout. Could you give us a brief explanation of the following and their ideal applications?

    Tuck Cast
    Bounce Cast
    Reach Cast(s?)
    The Curves
    and any others you deem important

    I view the first three as simple and vital, but would be open to you convincing me otherwise.


    I'd rather hunt fish than bait deer any day.

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    Well Cliff, you put me on the spot … that’s why I wrote my book: to teach folks another way to approach the fly cast. It’s called, The Fly Cast: Concepts & Comments and is available through Those interested can visit my site, read about the book, and make their decision as to whether or not to purchase.

    At the outset, let me say that the curve is a tough cast to learn … In my view too many words are required to describe its execution in this forum. Suffice it to say the curve can be made either overhead or sidearm. Of the two, sidearm is easier. For those who understand the principle of overpowering the cast and still cannot make the positive curve work, the problem is the tippet. It takes a heavier tippet to work. As for the negative curve, simply make an incomplete cast. The overhead curve, positive or negative is more difficult and requires extensive practice.

    The specialty casts you mention – the reach, tuck, bounce, along with the "S" cast – are all intended for a single purpose: provide a drag free drift of the fly into Friend Fish’s mouth. Being able to cast a long straight line is fun, but a long straight line is not the way to catch 90 percent of the so-called cold water fish such as trout and, for that matter, smallmouth bass. The problem should be obvious: when the belly of the line gets caught in the current, it will drift at a much faster rate than the tippet & fly and once overtaken will drag the fly right on down the creek past Friend Fish’s nose as he murmurs, “Another dumb fly fisher.”

    Any of these casts require the fly to have passed the rod tip before the caster modifies his or her stroke.

    To do the tuck or puddle cast, simply lift the rod tip – do not jerk – the line will descend to the surface in a puddle. The fly will drift free until the line straightens.

    To do the reach, simple lay the rod over to one side or the other upstream of the target. The fly will continue to the target but the belly will fall upstream enabling a drag free drift until the belly overtakes the fly.

    To mend the line, simply raise the belly of the line and lay it over upstream. This is not a cast but a continuation of the reach by repositioning the line. It extends the drag free drift.

    To do the bounce, simply buy a ball - tennis, rubber, or basket - and throw it against a hard surface. The b all should bounce but probably will not extend the drag.

    To do the “S” cast, simply make an overhead cast and as the line begins to settle out wiggle the rod from side to side. The line will fall to the surface forming S curves enabling a drift free drag until the line straightens.

    There are others such as the sidearm, the backhand, steeple, etc. Of the lot, I consider the sidearm and backhand as the most important casts for the fly caster to have in his or her inventory.


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    BTW folks... This year, Doug Macnair will be teaching a course for Tyler Junior College called "Advanced Fly Casting". It looks like we'll do this one in the fall after things start to cool off. Keep looking at the "Upcoming Events" section of this forum for the course dates.

    For more that eight years, Tyler Junior College in Tyler, Texas has offered basic and advanced fly fishing and fly tying courses. For more information go to:


  4. #4
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    South Texas


    Hey guys,
    I've been reading "Slack Line Strategies" by John Judy, and learned a benefit of the bounce cast I had never realized.

    He strongly advocates using this cast with a "spagetti leader" (2' of extra tippet) as a way to NOT NEED to fish super light tippets. He said that he rarely uses lighter than 5x since he started making cats this way and hasn't had any drop in catches. This allows him to bring in fish much quicker and get them released in better shape. Its a great book and I found mine at Half Price Books for about $5.

    I'd rather hunt fish than bait deer any day.

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