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    Default Re: acceptable distance for 9' 5 wt.

    On most of the small rivers I fish, 40 feet is really pushing it do to trees and bushes along the water.

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    Default Re: acceptable distance for 9' 5 wt.

    Quote Originally Posted by jspriddy View Post
    I know I'm opening a can of worms here, but how would a greenhorn, with no "expert" around to help, know if the line was unsuited to the rod? Experimentation with the cost of fly line would be cost prohibitive. I'm using a 9 ft. 5 wt. rod, which I believe to be medium action, with 5 wt. WF floating line. All of it White River from BassPro.
    Patrick
    With all of which you have shared here I think your doing a good job, I would like to make a suggestion and try a little experimentation with a SA Headstart 5wt line, its a half weight heavier than a normal 5wt line which could help you with timing and rod feel for 30 to 40 bucks.

    Rick
    Last edited by oarfish; 10-04-2012 at 02:21 PM. Reason: Added content.

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    I take a contrary position to most of the posts. Eventually, you will find that a 40 ft maximum will limit your fishing effectiveness and pleasure. Here's the problem with being able to cast 40 ft as your maximum ===> WIND!

    Any headwind and your 40 ft maximum becomes a dream. The second problem is if you fish at all from a belly boat. The low position limits your cast and you tend to spook fish as you get closer.

    There is no disadvantage to being able to cast long. All it can be is an advantage.

    My advice is to NOT be satisfied or limited by a 40 foot range. Learn a more effective casting stroke. Learn to double haul. Learn to shoot line on the backcast. Practice.
    Regards,

    Silver



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    John.
    As mentioned you will always find some Lines better suited to Rods than others,as there are heaps of Lines made for Specific purposes,many really Shoot better than others.
    You seem to be going OK,I wouldn't worry too much,distance & accuracy will come with practice,as suggested later on you probably will change Lines,even Rods.
    Once you start catching a few Fish you won't worry about how far you can cast.
    Brian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silver creek View Post
    I take a contrary position...

    My advice is to NOT be satisfied or limited by a 40 foot range. Learn a more effective casting stroke. Learn to double haul. Learn to shoot line on the backcast. Practice.
    Oh, I'm trying to increase my distance, but I feel like I've come a long way in less than 3 months. I am working on double hauling but that's coming slow. But in late July, I couldn't tie the fly to the end of the rod and hit you on the head with it. So I'm making progress. I was just trying to see if I was expecting too much out my equipment.

    Back to the practice field, thanks,

    John

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    Quote Originally Posted by oarfish View Post
    Patrick
    With all of which you have shared here I think your doing a good job, I would like to make a suggestion and try a little experimentation with a SA Headstart 5wt line, its a half weight heavier than a normal 5wt line which could help you with timing and rod feel for 30 to 40 bucks.

    Rick
    Thanks, Rick. I may try that. I have a gift card from one of the major retailers, and had been wondering what to do with it. Headstart sounds like it was made for new fly fishers like me.

    John

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liphookedau View Post
    John.
    As mentioned you will always find some Lines better suited to Rods than others,as there are heaps of Lines made for Specific purposes,many really Shoot better than others.
    You seem to be going OK,I wouldn't worry too much,distance & accuracy will come with practice,as suggested later on you probably will change Lines,even Rods.
    Once you start catching a few Fish you won't worry about how far you can cast.
    Brian.

    I improve a little each day. Some days I have a revelation (OH! So that's why they say...). Like tonight, I started watching my back cast and letting it unfold a little longer. Made quite a bit of difference. A week or so ago, I figured out I was letting my rod tip go to far back on the back cast. That helped also.

    Thanks for the words of encouragement.

    John
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    Patrick O’Brian

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    Default Re: acceptable distance for 9' 5 wt.

    Quote Originally Posted by jspriddy View Post
    I was just trying to see if I was expecting too much out my equipment.

    John
    Virtually any equipment is capable of more than 40' casts. That friend of mine I mentioned doing casts of 130' + is doing it with a Cabela's Three Forks rod. Not exactly expensive top of the line rod. As far as getting distance, the most important piece of equipment is you.

    Silver is absolutely right about the wind. Take the weather here for instance the last couple of times I have been out. To call it breezy would be putting it mildly. Then top it off with where the outside of the weed beds are along with where the top of my waders are and only being able to make a 40' cast will get you nowhere. What he said was good advice.

    Quote Originally Posted by jspriddy View Post
    I started watching my back cast and letting it unfold a little longer. Made quite a bit of difference. A week or so ago, I figured out I was letting my rod tip go to far back on the back cast. That helped also.
    Those are the little things that add up to an 80' cast in the near future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diver Dan View Post
    Virtually any equipment is capable of more than 40' casts....Those are the little things that add up to an 80' cast in the near future.
    Thanks, Dan. Last night I couldn't have cast a 10 oz. sinker on a broomstick. The night before I was pretty well pleased. I know, I know-practice, practice...

    Thanks to all

    John
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    Patrick O’Brian

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    If your rod is really stiff (fast action) a half weight heavier line would help you feel your rod load better and help with timing. Also a good quality line like a scientific anglers gpx, rio grand, or rio gold helps A LOT.
    Carson

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    Quote Originally Posted by troutchaser8 View Post
    If your rod is really stiff (fast action) a half weight heavier line would help you feel your rod load better and help with timing. Also a good quality line like a scientific anglers gpx, rio grand, or rio gold helps A LOT.

    Thanks. I think I'm going to try a heavier line. I've just put in too much practice with what I have, and really not seen a lot of improvement as of late.

    John
    “…and sometimes he saw an enormous disk of ocean, a cold, uneasy sea, endless miles of desolation, the comfortless element in which he was at home.”

    Patrick O’Brian

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    This is why I don't think you should be satisfied with a 40 foot cast.

    Your rod is 9 feet long. You should be using a 9 foot leader. Add the 30 feet of your WF 5 wt fly line that is the sweet spot for your rod, and you have 9 + 9 + 30 or 48 feet. Even if you deduct about 4 feet for slop and slack, you still have a cast of 44 feet with just the 30 feet of fly line.

    What I am trying to illustrate is that a 40 foot cast does not even require the minimum amount of line the rod is rated for.

    The potential of your rod is to cast that WF line well into the running line. You can get much better with practice but you need to practice correctly. Find a mentor or a teacher that can you improve. Improving is not hard with the right instruction. I had one of the best.
    Last edited by silver creek; 01-06-2013 at 02:55 PM.
    Regards,

    Silver



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