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    I recognize you from somewhere else. Hmmmmm maybe OSA

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    Quote Originally Posted by lurker66 View Post
    My tonne of distance is, if everything is perfect, about 40ft, lol. Im ok with that for now.
    That should be far enough for Oklahoma trout fishing
    Okiemountaineer

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    thanks for the tips guys. I watch my backcast sometimes but I usually just wait til I feel the rod tip load and then drive it. I will start watching my backs more.

    Because sometimes if I don't put enough on it (or something) I'm waiting for that pull (rod load) and I don't feel it so I freak out and it messes up my rhythm.

    I need to start watching so I see and feel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fly_guy12955
    What about , Silver. on this 'looking back' deal if you cast more toward a side arm stroke ? Would that be a more accurate tracking ?
    Shoulder and torso rotation with a totally horizontal rod position will not affect tracking. So, Yes, you can look back easily while casting horizontally without affecting tracking. The more you move towards overhead casting the harder this becomes.

    About separating "tracking" from "SLP":

    "SLP" is "straight line path" of the rod tip due to rod bend. So the tip, when viewed from the side (on a vertical casting stroke), bends more and more during the middle section of rotation and remains fairly horizontal through a good section of the casting stroke.

    See animation #3 Virtual Fly Casting - Instruction - The 5 Essentials

    Good "tracking" is a straight line tip path when viewing an overhead cast from a helicopter hovering directly above the caster. Bad tracking will be evident if that tip path curves between the start and finish of the stroke.

    In a perfectly horizontal cast, the viewpoint would be from the side at the same height as the rod above the ground.

    So with a horizontal cast accompanied by a horizontal twisting of the torso and shoulders (as usually occurs when looking backwards), there will be no adverse effect on tracking. The twisting motion is occurring in a plane parallel to the rod. That twisting motion plane in an overhead cast will be 90 degrees opposed to the plane of the rod.

    With an overhead cast accompanied with a twisting motion of the shoulders, adjustments need to be made to do this during (and/or after) the casting stroke in order to maintain good tracking on that, or the next, casting stroke.

    If using a "thumb-on-top" grip, this is doubly difficult in my opinion and not at all "ergonomic". It is much easier on the body with a "palm-forward" grip - again, in my opinion. I also think it is harder to look back and maintain good tracking when using the Joan Wulff /Jason Borger /Steve Rajeff styles of casting opposed to the more "open" styles of Mike Heritage/Paul Arden/Lasse Karlsson.
    Last edited by wjc; 02-08-2014 at 12:36 PM. Reason: Last edit in red
    http://www.miterclamp.com/Images/N_Amer_FF.jpg Cheers, Jim

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    Well it's been 2 years. Thought I'd update. After gettin started and eventually catching some fish, I crashed my motorcycle and tore up my shoulder. That was all but 2 years ago.

    I've healed up, regrouped and been hitting ponds n lakes since spring. My casting improved a little, I at least had the basics down.

    Well today I took my 29y/o nephew with me. As I was teaching him the basics something "clicked". I was throwing very tight loops. My rod was begging for more line. It tugged an laid straight.

    It was like a light came on. My nephew was impressed, heck I was impressed, I know I looked like a pro. Was just funny how I went from short and intermediate casts to tossing some real 50 an 60 footers....and laid em straight and accurate.

    And all I did was explain and show my nephew "the basics".
    Look out fish, Im learning a new way to catch you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lurker66 View Post
    My tonne of distance is, if everything is perfect, about 40ft, lol. Im ok with that for now.
    I too had to laugh, with a 2hander (even as light as a 2/3 trouter) I can easily hit 90 or more feet. With a single hander that '40' sounds about right.
    When wealth is lost, nothing is lost; when health is lost, something is lost; when character is lost, all is lost. - Billy Graham"

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    Lurker,

    Just saw your post from this year. That's great news that the casting motion just clicked for you! Sorry to hear about your bike accident and shoulder though.

    It wouldn't surprise me if you didn't exagerate your stroke by lengthening it and slowing it down some to better demonstrate how to do it for your nephew. Whatever you are doing differently, it sounds like it is definitely working out well.
    http://www.miterclamp.com/Images/N_Amer_FF.jpg Cheers, Jim

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