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    What is the best way to cast upstream under trees?

    Iíll be fishing a medium sized river with trees overhanging from my left. Iíll be able to make side arm casts towards the center of the river on my right.

    Shots are 20-30í

    So my approach is a side arm cast with a short stroke and then a aerial mend towards the bank in order to get the fly, leader, and line drifting directly back to me.

    Iíll go try and find a photo of this setup now.

    Thanks.

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    Maybe bow and arrow cast:
    How to Fly Fish: The Bow & Arrow Cast - Orvis News

    Or if euro nymphing there's a "side arm" cast that could work... There's probably some name for this, but not sure.

    Or if using a floating indicator you could let your line water load in the current behind you, and then side arm it up and low ahead (so you don't have to false cast).

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    Default Re: Upstream Under Branches

    Here is a very good video describing how to cast under branches, it was on the Orvis site a few days ago.

    Larry


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    Default Re: Upstream Under Branches

    perhaps devin olsen:helicopter cast?


    cheers


    thomas

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    Default Re: Upstream Under Branches

    I'd position myself above the branches and float the fly downstream under them while feeding line to extend the drift.

    From the downstream position, if one was able to land the fly under the branches, then the problem of achieving a drag free float arises...

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    "The fly goes in the direction the tip was moving when you stopped the rod" Lefty Kreh

    If you stop with that tip traveling in a straight line toward your target, it doesn't matter if there are branches, or anything else above that path. You'll get the fly where it needs to go. It is important that you were accelerating at the time you made the stop. Never coast, or slow down during the stroke. This will give you directional control, and the fly will not waver from its path.

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    Default Re: Upstream Under Branches

    I don't particularly like doing this, but there's a few places that I fish where you don't have much choice.

    You make a lazy cast down-stream with your wet fly, 'bugger, streamer.. whatever sort of swimming fly you might choose,,,somewhat short of your suspected lie.
    Stick your rod tip under water and draw your line over into the current seam that you're trying to fish and let your fly slip.
    Only a couple inches at a time
    Swing it out a little. Swing it back in. Slip a couple of more inches.
    Expect a strike. Like every time.
    It's kinda difficult to get a hook-up this way (use a slip strike) but it's more effective than you might think.

    Just don't let anybody see you do this. It's not exactly "high church".
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    Default Re: Upstream Under Branches

    Skip cast....

    If done correctly, you can skip the fly off the surface of the water like a stone...
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    Default Re: Upstream Under Branches

    Quote Originally Posted by brokeoff View Post
    What is the best way to cast upstream under trees?

    Iíll be fishing a medium sized river with trees overhanging from my left. Iíll be able to make side arm casts towards the center of the river on my right.

    Shots are 20-30í

    So my approach is a side arm cast with a short stroke and then a aerial mend towards the bank in order to get the fly, leader, and line drifting directly back to me.

    Iíll go try and find a photo of this setup now.

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    You have already gotten some good recommendations. I will not bother going over those.

    Usually, the water closest to the bank is flowing the slowest. Therefore, with a sidearm cast casting up and across from below or directly across from the middle; you want an OVERPOWERED cast so the cast hooks to the LEFT downstream. The places the fly down stream of the tippet and the tippet has an ustream curve so you will get a longer drag free drift. Since the fly is DOWNSTREAM of the leader, the fly enters the window first. So an overpowered sidearm cast is one of the best casts to use/

    I suspect you are a left handed caster since the left bank is the easiest side to cast to for a right hander.

    So the question become how does an angle make a overpowered sidearm cast to his off side? Well one way is to cast with the opposite hand. I suspect that if you were able to do this, you would not have asked the question.

    My suggestion is to make your usual sidearm cast to the left and this will be the "backcast". For this cast, your palm will be up. At the stop for this cast, immediately turn your hand PALM DOWN. Then make the delivery cast with your palm down. With the palm down, your casting motion of your forearm will be just like your normal forward cast in that you will be OPENING your elbow rather than CLOSING your elbow as you would normally do with a back cast.

    You will be making both your forward and backward delivery casts using a forward casting motion. This will allow you to be more accurate AND will enable you to overpower the delivery cast so you get the sidearm curve. Basically you will be doing a sidearm version of the Galway cast.

    Galway Cast – Fly Casting Video Masterclass

    Regards,

    Silver



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